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« on: August 21, 2006, 07:14:59 PM »
It appears to be similar to the Chance 'candy stripe' pattern (I think - I'm not too familiar with Chance glass). It's most likely a second, as there's a score-line in the transfer on two sides of the vase and the transfer is unevenly applied and goes right to the edge of the vase.

Vase height averages out at 8.2". The white appears to be flashed onto clear, and only the yellow decoration is printed, as the white colouring is unaffected by the scoring.

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Is it Chance, perchance? Or should I look elsewhere for an attribution?

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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2006, 07:26:36 PM »
It looks like Chance candy-stripe to me Nic. David will be able to confirm... could be a second if the transfer is squiffy I suppose:  I don't know how good, or otherwise, Chance's quality control was.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2006, 07:30:56 PM »
Were Chance vases flashed and then over-printed? I really have nothing in my collection to compare it to.

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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2006, 07:53:41 PM »
Yes, it is Candy Stripe which is one of the scarcer models! Most are around 7", so the 8" is quite unusual, but I've only ever seen yeloow and sky-blue models. The mark looks more like a scratch so will devalue it a certain amount.

But is this an opal glass? :shock: If so then this is very unusual and - dare I say it - rare?  Well found  8)

The posy vases (4" & 5" height) were made by cutting the glass to shape, silk-screen printing the flat glass and then 'slumped' naturally in a kiln at 700 degrees C with no manual intervention. The larger 7" and 8" handkerchief vases wouldn't slump naturally, so had to be prodded with a willow stick to the desired shape. Each one lovingly crafted by hand ... etc.

I've still to date this pattern as it's such an unusual one, but if this is opal and not clear glass, that might be a big clue to it being earlier than 1960 — maybe deriving from the Cut Pearl intaglio model? Always a possibility.

Is it OK to use the photos, Nic? If possible, one against a neutral background would be most welcome  :)
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2006, 08:05:47 PM »
The mark runs perfectly straight from one corner to the next (taking the ripples into account) but runs at an angle to the edge, all of which would suggest it was there before it was shaped.

I'll do some better photos against a less cluttered background when I can find my photo tent in the next couple of days (it's buried somewhere) - feel free to use them as you want when they're up.

Typically, as always seems to be the case, I bought this at a carboot for £2 and gave it to my father thinking it wouldn't be worth much more - and it turns out to be a probably rare 'un! The same happened when I bought him what I thought was a cheap piece of decorative Polish glass, and it turned out to be a £50+ Riihimaen 'Tornado' vase...  :roll:

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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2006, 08:56:46 PM »
Quote from: "DenCill"

But is this an opal glass? :shock: If so then this is very unusual and - dare I say it - rare?


It's definitely opal glass - the scratch/score doesn't cut through it, and there's the tiniest of tiny flakes missing from one of the tips, and it doesn't disturb the white either.

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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2006, 09:19:24 AM »
Update: adapted from mail to/from Nic

I'm theorising, but as this is flashed, it may date to when they decided to drop the intaglio model (Cut Pearl, 1957/58 ) and replace it with the silk-screen printed models. Chance never wasted anything, so it's entirely possible the unformed blanks were 'left-overs'!
 
So it could have been something they were trying out on a left-over piece of glass. It could also explain the 8" height, which is also unusual.

My only concern is whether the dates tally, assuming Candy Stripe followed after Cut Pearl, but there are so few examples of both it's very difficult to tell.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2006, 12:21:47 AM »
Hi David,

I have a couple of questions.

Is this a quote or precis from a reference, or, part of your research into Chance?

"The posy vases (4" & 5" height) were made by cutting the glass to shape, silk-screen printing the flat glass and then 'slumped' naturally in a kiln at 700 degrees C with no manual intervention. The larger 7" and 8" handkerchief vases wouldn't slump naturally, so had to be prodded with a willow stick to the desired shape. Each one lovingly crafted by hand ... etc."

You see, I have a reference from an article by Lesley Jackson about the way Chance Fiesta pieces were made, but it doesn't talk about any hand work, so is that specific to handkerchief bowls?

Secondly, this made me start musing:
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Chance never wasted anything, so it's entirely possible the unformed blanks were 'left-overs'!


Although I would have assumed for such large scale production it is likely to be be tidier to bin any overs, I understand what you say about them never wasting anything - so am I way off beam in thinking it might just be the sheet glass left in stock before each "run", or, would they have kept any/all pre-cut pieces of glass for potential use? It's a strange thing to say a piece of sheet glass is a blank isn't it? - since we generally think of a three-dimensional item as a blank :shock:

On the other hand (thinking aloud as-it-were) if the pieces were already cut then surely the size would be standard, so maybe this is a size that was made specially? :?

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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2006, 08:27:46 AM »
All information on these vases was gathered from reliable sources, namely:

Tony Cartwright: Chance Glass from 1959 to 1981, finishing as General Manager, before setting up Fiesta Glass Ltd. with...
Michael Joseph: Managing Director of Fiesta Glass Ltd, then Chairman.

Both are adamant that manual intervention was required on the larger vases and the process was described to me by both of them, independently.

It is inevitable they would cut a number of 'blanks' prior to producing the vases. Why there were any 'left-overs' of the flashed opal blanks (as confirmed by Tony in a recent e-mail) is not something I can answer, except to confirm they did exist.

The term 'blank' is commonly used to determine a pre-formed, or pre-engineered item. Plenty of industries use this term.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2006, 01:11:20 PM »
Hi David,

Sorry, I wasn't questioning your use of the term "blank", merely commenting on how strange it was having to refer to a piece of sheet glass as such (whether flashed or not). Your use of the term was quite understood :)

Very interesting about the manual intervention when making the larger (handkerchief) vases, thank you.

Nigel

 

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