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Offline Anne

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Re: 6 nice glass bowls
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2019, 11:09:18 PM »
Not the photographer, it was a glassmaking firm:  Heinrich Hoffmann. Gablonz a.N. Czecho-Slovakia
Catalogue from them dated 1927 or 1933/4 here https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Hoffmann-1927-probably-1933.25.0.html
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Re: 6 nice glass bowls
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2019, 07:20:39 AM »
thanks for adding the link Anne.              Traditionally, 'salts' used on the table have been of some reasonable depth  -  certainly deeper than these pieces from wesley which IMHO are too shallow for a salt  -  but doesn't life always surprise you  -  perhaps if your 'pinch' was delicate you might get away with putting salt in these.

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Re: 6 nice glass bowls
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2019, 04:06:43 PM »
These are not Hoffman. I suggest they are post-war Czech and, as I said earlier, cocktail (AKA individual) ashtrays.

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Re: 6 nice glass bowls
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2019, 05:21:11 PM »
for some of us lesser mortals, we'd be grateful for an explanation, as to exactly why it's not possible for these pieces to be Hoffman - this will be of great help should similar items appear in the future - thanks. :)

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Re: 6 nice glass bowls
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2019, 06:17:13 PM »
As I understand it, and I'm sure Christine will either add to this or correct me if I'm off-course. :) Hoffman pieces usually carry a small butterfly mark. I can't see such a mark on these pieces and couldn't find them in the Hoffman catalogue I linked to either. I agree with Christine that they could well be cocktail ashtrays such as those we know were made in Czechoslovakia under the Bohemia Crystal label like this:
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Re: 6 nice glass bowls
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2019, 08:39:42 PM »
thanks Anne  -  I don't recall whether this 'trademark' was on the one tray I had - too long ago.

I've filched this from elsewhere  ................................   "Heinrich Hoffman lived from 1875-1939. At the turn of the 20th century, he had an artist's studio in Paris, w he made glass molds. The molds were then sent to Bohemia, where his wife, Josephine, was in charge of making the glass. Hoffman's trademark was a small, open-winged butterfly that is frequently (but not always) on his glass."

Perhaps this was what Lustrousstone had in mind - but anyway it's useful to have an explanation, even though it appears not to be a hard and fast rule. I've looked quickly through the Newhall 'Sklo Union' book, but couldn't see a close match, but would be surprised if there wasn't something similar on the CD catalogues, even though it seems the edge/rim is cut?

So, we'll go with the suggestion of post-war Czech for tea bags (philistines) ;)/herbs/pins/butter curls/cocktail ashtrays

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Re: 6 nice glass bowls
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2019, 10:39:01 AM »
I have 2 very similar small dish like these but mine are square with cut corners one is a nude scene and other a mother and child both have a very tiny butterfly emblem in bottom right corner.
will find them and upload pics.
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Re: 6 nice glass bowls
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2019, 10:50:28 AM »
I must have 3 as I just found this one for now.
they all have the small butterfly in bottom right corner.

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Re: 6 nice glass bowls
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2019, 11:41:04 AM »
so good provenance for Hoffman then - nice pieces.       Inter war Continental designs often made a nod toward the 'nue'

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Re: 6 nice glass bowls
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2019, 12:01:17 PM »
Other companies used the frosted intaglio style, so unless Wesley can find exactly the same design on a marked Hoffman piece, his are probably not Hoffman

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