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"Low wash bowl"
« on: September 27, 2019, 08:06:05 AM »
Spotted this whilst looking for my cobalt carafes.  It caught my eye because I have the same in ruby, but haven't started trying to identify it yet.  I haven't come across the term "low wash bowl", and it certainly wouldn't be the first thought looking at mine as the bowl is very shallow.  I was thinking centrepiece bowl.  Is this peculiar to the USA?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LARGE-17-Inch-Hand-Blown-Cobalt-Glass-Low-Wash-Bowl-/163691369491?hash=item261cc41413%3Ag%3AQ2oAAOSwKUJc3GBP&nma=true&si=Scn2wZr2CflnJT9mjg%252F48fpq0mo%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
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Re: "Low wash bowl"
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2019, 08:39:58 AM »
Not a term I have heard before. However from Murano I believe:
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,58449.0.html

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Re: "Low wash bowl"
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2019, 08:49:54 AM »
Thanks John......that has an unexpected bonus of solving another mystery piece.  Will check the ribs for any signature and add a picture if I find one.  They're really impressive pieces imho.

Added: couldn't resist a quick trawl......these seem to be being attributed to Pauly&C.....and I think I need to bring it in from the garage where I left it after unpacking the box it was in!
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Re: "Low wash bowl"
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2019, 09:07:38 AM »
Yes would agree, lovely. Saw a couple of vases with bases that match the other day, first time I have seen that design as far as I remember, assume they are from the same source. They were also in red, quite large and with a spiral trail on the neck, no photos unfortunately.

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Re: "Low wash bowl"
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2019, 07:48:34 PM »
Brought it indoors, washed it, and went over with a magnifier but no marks at all.  41cm/16" diameter.  The ones I have seen on the internet all give Pauly & C as the attribution,  but no references given, and one of the four had "?Pauly".

CMOG have 28 pieces attributed to Pauly on their website, but none of these bowls.  Unfortunately, I don't have any specialist Italian glass books to check.

Interesting that the only blue one I've found was the one in the listing above.  Given that cardinals' hats were red, perhaps they didn't make many in blue.  Surprised it didn't sell at $50, if it is a rare Pauly piece - especially as the ruby ones I found were listed at £1500 and £1250, sold at £385, and the last one was price on application.

I will continue the search.
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Re: "Low wash bowl"
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2019, 10:35:14 AM »
You wouldn't do much washing in that tiny centre. Much more likely it's for display or fruit, what the American call a console bowl

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Re: "Low wash bowl"
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2019, 12:01:22 PM »
I used to have a couple of these bowls but never got a firm attribution beyond just 'Murano'. I've seen them attributed to Venini by sellers but with no supporting evidence...

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,32868.msg177992.html#msg177992

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Re: "Low wash bowl"
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2019, 05:21:06 PM »
Steven thanks for adding that link - I missed it on my search.  It led me to another thread with a posting by Ivo of a gold version of these bowls, where Ivo included the information that Venini had been suggested as a maker. 

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,32443.0.html

I started looking for links between Venini and Pauly.  Found a piece described as "A prototype vase by Venini for Pauly", but I haven't been able to find out more about any possible collaboration.

https://www.1000-objekte.ch/products/prototype-vase-by-venini-for-pauly

In 2005, Sotheby's auctioned pieces from the Pauly Collection of Murano glass, with pieces by other Venetian glass makers including Venini.

One of the lots is listed as a 73cm version of these bowls, and Is attributed to Pauly & C. C.V.M.  Interestingly, no mention of cardinals hats in the description.  I just got the tape measure out.....73cm/28.5" would be a huge piece.

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/lot.142.html/2005/the-pauly-collection-of-murano-glass-mi0257

Is this enough for an attribution to Pauly, or could it be that other Venetian companies made exactly the same style pieces?  Mine has 16 ribs, as do all the ones I've found so far that could be counted from the images.  The Sotheby's image appears to have 16 ribs, although it is not easy to count them on a profile picture.

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Re: "Low wash bowl"
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2019, 01:09:41 AM »
My blue iridised example had 12 ribs. The flat rim and ribbed well reminds me a little of some shapes seen in Peking glass. 

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Re: "Low wash bowl"
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2019, 09:12:50 AM »
That's interesting Steven, as the finish in your piece reminded me of the one in this link - attributed to WMF, but without a reference - but this has 16 ribs, although it's a good match for size at 30.8cm compared to yours at 30.5cm.

https://scottishantiques.com/art-glass/german-austrian?product_id=8764

22" Example with 14 ribs, attributed to Barovier & Toso - again no reference for attribution

https://www.chairish.com/product/751199/barovier-toso-purple-murano-glass-platter
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