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Author Topic: Trying to identify Glass etch mark S  (Read 2311 times)

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Offline Paul S.

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Re: Trying to identify Glass etch mark S
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2019, 07:03:00 PM »
but there's time yet perhaps ;)  …...…………………….....   unfortunately, the Board presently appears to lack the level of activity of recent years, and of previous members who perhaps valued a more academic enthusiasm, of whom Bernard was a prime example - of that there's certainly no doubt.       On the other hand there were past members who were unable to find sufficient tolerance toward his brusque and arrogant attitude, and who departed the GMB for that reason.              Judging by your own post back in 2006 - showing in the link you've added - you've been a member longer than me, so you must remember some of those I've mentioned.
From memory, Bernard excelled in the area of pressed glass - fortunately we have some hard working folk here who also have maintained very good work in that area, so perhaps Bernard's absence hasn't been too detrimental, but it must be admitted that his work on this particular subject was a first. :)

So how do we resolve this question about the S on T.W. wares ...………..  perhaps we now can't.             The manufacturers of whom we speak, and the Liverpool Department store are no longer, and locating their archives seems difficult.        Bernard obviously considered that it was common knowledge that "S" was Stonier's approved back stamp for cut glass wares from Stuart  -  bit unfortunate that Stonier and Stuart have the same initial letter - and logic might dictate that the same backstamp on T.W. had to mean Stonier also.

Re-reading the 2006 thread in it's entirety, doesn't appear to show clearly the source of Bernard's provenance for some of the information, though again I might have missed something  -  I'm not doubting the accuracy of his conclusions - but it would have helped us for future searching if a source for information was quoted.        Perhaps it's a failing of human nature to assume that others know as much as we do, so why bother to over egg the amount of information we give.

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Re: Trying to identify Glass etch mark S
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2019, 07:25:21 PM »
It wouldn't surprise me if Webb also supplied Stonier. Bernard was of the opinion that the S only appeared on White Star Line items but as they were a retailer with a dirty great store in Liverpool and a wholesaler, that didn't make sense (we had one of our disagreements about that)

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Re: Trying to identify Glass etch mark S
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2019, 09:14:40 PM »
Thanks everyone for your help and knowledge. The wine glass i have in question with the S mark appears to be a Thomas Webb in the London cut which explains why I found identifying so difficult. excuse my lack of photographs I'm finding it difficult to get them down to size (technophobe)

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Re: Trying to identify Glass etch mark S
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2019, 09:33:00 PM »
which of the re-sizing programmes do you use?             The Mods. here usually offer to resize images if you send pix to them - alternatively, I'm also happy to re-size with IrfanView if you send same to me.         However, your original pix at the start of this thread look to be adequate, especially as it's the S that's the more important of the two, and that picture does appear o.k.

Would agree this appears to be a T.W. pattern called 'London Clear' -  found in the Replacements.com site.

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Re: Trying to identify Glass etch mark S
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2019, 02:29:30 AM »
Does anyone know who holds the archives for Thomas Webb?
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Re: Trying to identify Glass etch mark S
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2019, 06:28:36 AM »
I had a pic of a wine glass labelled "Thomas Webb for Stonier" on my PC for about 5 years which I deleted a few days ago thinking, nobody will ever be interested in that! I've forgotten where the source was now. I also have a photo of the inside of Stoniers from 1897, can't show here it's copyrighted, but it shows the best part of 1000 pieces of glassware in one photo so we can assume they had a fair few suppliers, Molineaux Webb of Manchester was one. Easy transport of goods from Manchester and Warrington must have meant a good few of their goods came from there, you would have thought.

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Re: Trying to identify Glass etch mark S
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2019, 07:53:26 PM »
This area is not really my thing, but no-one has suggested the American company L. E. Smith Glass. The company used a single S mark at some stage: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/33143747232747101/
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Re: Trying to identify Glass etch mark S
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2019, 02:55:54 PM »
I'm pretty sure LE Smith was pressed glass

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Re: Trying to identify Glass etch mark S
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2019, 11:06:36 PM »
Does anyone know who holds the archives for Thomas Webb?

I seem to recall that they were held at Broadfield House Glass Museum, but I don't know where they are now with the closure of BH. 
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