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Offline POWELLGLASS

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Champagne saucer with four tears
« on: October 16, 2019, 03:36:57 PM »
Identification of champagne saucer with four tears.  Height 5,1/2” diameter 4,1/8”.  No marks.

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Re: Champagne saucer with four tears
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2019, 03:48:32 PM »
Hello.  Please post a picture of one glass taken side on so we can clearly see the profile, and a picture of the base - even unmarked bases can give useful information.  A close up of the detail would be great too!
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Re: Champagne saucer with four tears
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2019, 05:41:22 PM »
Photos as requested.  Just to confirm there is no pontil on the base

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Re: Champagne saucer with four tears
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2019, 06:02:31 PM »
Is it possible that they come from Germany? I know this design... but don‘t know where I‘ve seen them. I‘m German, that is why I asked
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Re: Champagne saucer with four tears
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2019, 06:11:20 PM »
Found them in Coldstream in the Scottish Borders

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Re: Champagne saucer with four tears
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2019, 10:21:14 PM »
The remind me of Thomas Webb or Stuart pieces.
I need to have a look to see which.

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Specifically they remind me of these two vases with applied dabs and therefore I think there is a possibility they may be Stuart:
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,55750.msg316021.html#msg316021


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Re: Champagne saucer with four tears
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2019, 07:22:03 AM »
sorry to seem thick m, but to which post No. in your link, are you referring? :)                    Again, perhaps I'm missing something, but isn't it far more likely - in view of the description - that the op's saucers are far more modern than the old/antique pieces your may be thinking of?
It's very true that 'tears' were a form of surface decoration in the are nouveau style , but in view of the description of the base on these examples, then these sound to be far more recent. :)

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Re: Champagne saucer with four tears
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2019, 09:53:55 AM »
The first one which shows the photographs of my vases:

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=55750.0;attach=148598;image


Yes I see what you mean about no pontil mark on the foot.

However the dabs and trails definitely remind me of Stuart pieces  ;D

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Re: Champagne saucer with four tears
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2019, 01:46:39 PM »
thanks m  -  and quite true that Stuart used dabs/tears, but only on much older glass, as far as I know - I'm convinced these saucers are modern. :)

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Re: Champagne saucer with four tears
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2019, 01:54:18 PM »
and you may well be right :)

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