Topic: Italian Glass?

[ldft54]

Good day everyone. This is my first post so be gentle with me if you can!
Could the glass vases in the attached picture be something Italian?
The white cased glass item with the orange and black spiral design is 13 cm across, 36 cm tall. There is a tidy pontil to the base with the rest left unpolished.

The rose glass with the red circles is 14 cm across at it's widest and 41 cm tall the neck is 26 cm from the shoulder. Neck diameter 5 cm.
Again there is a tidy pontil to the base with the rest left unpolished

https://www.facebook.com/germanartpottery/photos/a.1824726511168942/2075431789431745/

TIA

Larry

[Paul S.]

hello Larry  -  welcome to the GMB

regret I'm ignorant of your two pieces, but hopefully someone will have an idea - you may have to wait a day or so as not everyone looks in on a regular basis, but in the meantime, and just to give you an idea of the formalities and habits of the GMB, would suggest the following.

To avoid possible confusion during discussions, experience shows that it's better to restrict each post to a single item of glass  -  and posting from your own library to the Board directly is better than an external host  -  apparently it provides a longer life to your images - they don't disappear without warning.           Are you able to send pix from your camera to your pc, then re-size and upload to the GMB?       Pix will need resizing with the larger dimension at 700  -  there are technical tips here under the advice section if your experience problems, and shout if you still have problems.
Your descriptions of the bases will be improved if we can see a suitable picture  -  the 'underneath' of glass can say so much.

Have to say that 'unpolished' bases do worry me a tad  -  Italian glass has a good reputation, usually, and is mostly well finished, though pieces from other parts of the globe are of lesser quality often.

Hope this doesn't daunt and look forward to seeing further images.               Not that it will help with an id, but sometimes interesting to know the source of items.

[ldft54]

Many thanks Paul. Items came from UK antiques shops. Didn't pay much relative to size. Waiting on on a crisp winter day and some good light for additional pictures!

[ldft54]

Have just seen one of the two vases on ebay as part of a collection. It has a handmade sticker on the neck with the words hand (in black) and made (in white or silver) - All lower case italic

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-COLOURED-GLASS-VASES-POSS-WHITEFRIARS-MURANO-PLUS/163913778012?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

[Paul S.]

Hi  -  unfortunately, ebay attributions are often unsubstantiated, so IMHO you might treat those comments with caution - the use of well known names is an association made in the hope of higher prices.             At times correct provenance can difficult to discover, and judging by the lack of replies to your request the right answer for your pieces may remain elusive, permanently.               On the other hand if a piece attracts you, and prices are inexpensive, then buying - whether the maker is known or unknown - is satisfaction ………………  it's what you find attractive that counts provided you aren't falling foul of deception and paying big bucks.

Most collectors of glass fall into those groups who concentrate on well known makers and periods   -   the reason being that known material can be researched, dated, valued, their high quality appreciated and discussed with other like-minded souls - plus the fact that books on glass are devoted usually to better known material with quality.               But in order to acquire the knowledge as to which pieces are the good, the bad and the ugly, you must first get a few books, visit museums, fairs, and markets  -  it's not an overnight process.              If only it was

[ldft54]

Yes - I have little faith in listings that throw a handful of names from across the spectrum into their title. Was more hopeful that the label might strike a chord with someone. Extra photos to follow BTW

[Paul S.]

well, it seems no one here is yet jumping in with a 'yes, I've seen it before' comment - IMHO, labels such as showing in your link are made in the hope that something made by hand implies a touch of William Morris and therefore of some interest, and value.
There are those here who seeing bottoms with unpolished and rough patches on the glass will offer the suggestion that such pieces, though not all, have been know to come from China/far east.
Point is, if you like them, that's all that matters, though unlikely they will enhance you pension fund.

The Board does have a section devoted entirely to marks and labels  -  of which there are scores  and no harm in you having a look through that archive - you never know.

[ldft54]

Many thanks, just about to crop pictures

[ldft54]

more detail cased glass vase

[ldft54]

Vase 2 update