Topic: Pair of double knopped stem glasses. 19th century barware?

[Jeffingtons]

This pair came with something else I bought. They're glass so don't ring, and put together really roughly. The bases are quite conical, and I've not seen the double knop arrangement before. 12cm tall though one is slightly taller than the other, by about 1-2mm.
Bowls about 5½cm across and a little deeper. Bases same width as bowls

I'm assuming barware due to the poor quality of the finish, and wondered if they might be gin glasses. I know this is a very grey area but I'd be interested in people's opinion on them and any thoughts about age.

[Jeffingtons]

Couple more pics

[keith]

Also very nice, have a couple with the same 'fluted' panels, is that the correct term ? but different shapes, mid Victorian ?

[LEGSY]

My knowledge is quite little but i do have some knowledge of these type's
more the types i find lovely Rummer Keith and would look at the other as a Gin
glass is it slightly deceptive??  And Jeffingtons glass i would class as a workaday
type of glass you could try and describe it i guess small wine or something else
with baluster stem on a cushion knop or similar i sometimes think these double knops
sound good as calling them inverted knops lol thats my wordings lol not even sure thats
a correct terminology so don't quote i think they are great glasses perfect for using guess
that's why Rummers are collected so avidly....I have a couple similar to you broken one
Jeffingtons below i use when having a bottle of red or similar as they don't need refills that often

[Paul S.]

quote from Jeff  ......….""They're glass so don't ring ………."       I thought all of them were          but presumably meaning without any lead content.
IMHO I doubt that there's such a thing as a "slightly deceptive" glass  -  pieces are made as truly deceptive (toastmasters) glasses, or they are simply standard capacity glasses, but perhaps with thicker than average metal - as in pub/tavern glasses.

IMHO the correct descriptions for the cutting on the bowls would be  …………
when there is a series of parallel cuts usually of concave shape (or possibly mitres) they would be called flutes …………...
but if they are simply cut flat, then 'slice cut' would appropriate.

I'd suggest there are too many glasses in this thread so might be some confusion when discussing individual pieces.

Usual old problem when discussing drinking glasses post 1830 - 1849  ……….   available books to help - such as Bickerton with Georgian glasses - are almost non-existent.

[Jeffingtons]

Paul, yes non-leaded glass is what I meant. I think my brain froze a little there.

[Paul S.]

 hi  -  can't imagine anyone didn't know what you meant   -  I added my comment as I was also sending some other words.

[catshome]

but if they are simply cut flat, then 'slice cut' would appropriate

I happened to have been looking on CMOG to answer this very question for myself, so thought it might be helpful to post this here

https://www.cmog.org/artwork/cut-paneled-wineglass

[Jeffingtons]

They're slice cut on these. Everything on them is done to look as good as possible with the least possible effort or expense. Maybe made by the IKEA of it's day

[Paul S.]

from memory I think one of the more impressive examples of C20 sliced panel cut drinking glasses is the 'Yacht' pattern  -   was it Stuart, not sure now.