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Author Topic: Victorian vase with green trails over mica - Cephalonia type finish  (Read 2182 times)

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Looking to ID the maker of this vase if possible, guessing it was made circa 1880 give or take a few extra years... A small vase about 10cm tall, body in clear glass with a pretty even coating on the outside of what looks like mica with lime and dark green trails over the top. The mica feels quite rough to the touch, rim is hot finished but there is no pontil mark, the mica and lack of pontil mark in the circumstances has me thinking Bohemian.

The only time I have seen a finish on the outside that is similar was a on a Loetz Cephalonia vase.

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Re: Victorian vase with green trails over mica - Cephalonia type finish
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2020, 03:37:08 PM »
That Cephalonia vase...

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Re: Victorian vase with green trails over mica - Cephalonia type finish
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2020, 04:06:41 PM »
The texture of your mica looks very, very like a bit of Loetz I have. I'm not positive it is mica, it just looks like snow covered branches of trees.
It's kind of white and kind of silver and kind of all pillow-y soft, and leads to a bumpy but smooth surface on the glass.
It's clear with silvery white mica-ish bits and had had a silver metal electroplated lining (Now all blackened and much was scratched off before it became mine.)

I've searched and found the pattern was called Schaumglas, an Eduard Prochaska technique.
And searching for that, I've found bits with coloured strapping on.
Just need to confirm the shape now, I hope.  ;D
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Re: Victorian vase with green trails over mica - Cephalonia type finish
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2020, 04:33:45 PM »
Done some digging and found a thread with pics of my vase in.
(And I've found green trailed bits the same shape as mine.)

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,47725.new.html#new
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Re: Victorian vase with green trails over mica - Cephalonia type finish
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2020, 05:58:02 PM »
Thanks Sue, most Loetz Schaum glass dates from the 30s I believe, like this: https://www.loetz.com/decors-a-z/schaumglas

The earlier examples are somewhat different again:
http://www.bohemianglass.org/katalog/vaza-na-nozce-schaumglas-dek-waltl-wilfert-3543/detail/

The schaum or bubbles are within the glass, not a layer on the outside of the glass like my wee vase.

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Re: Victorian vase with green trails over mica - Cephalonia type finish
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2020, 06:57:34 PM »
 ;D I should have learned by now I should keep away from making any statements about Loetz. :-X
I hadn't realised your "bits" were on the outside. My "bits" are on the inside, but still lead to a bumpy surface. It is just very finely cased.

I did think your strapping looked more robust, and possibly even a stronger green, and was still waiting to hear of shape confirmation... (excuses)
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Re: Victorian vase with green trails over mica - Cephalonia type finish
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2020, 08:01:10 PM »
 :)
Hi John did you discount Stevens & Williams Silveria already just
sprang too my mind when i saw this on the screen, Sadly i have not
seen any in the flesh but it looks similar to yours Dan

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Re: Victorian vase with green trails over mica - Cephalonia type finish
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2020, 08:36:19 PM »
 ;D
That's exactly what my guts thought before I enlarged the pics, but it's not. I have been involved in or observed threads where it has been illustrated.
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Re: Victorian vase with green trails over mica - Cephalonia type finish
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2020, 07:38:57 AM »
Absolutely discounted Stevens & Williams Silveria, that was made with silver leaf in an unusual way leaving a near continuous layer of silver (it was not blown further after the silver was added).

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Re: Victorian vase with green trails over mica - Cephalonia type finish
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2020, 07:57:41 PM »
John do you have the Manley book. I can't remember if similar was in there but was just wondering if there were any snippets of info in there. Likewise the Victorian Decorative Glass book just in case.
I have seen this decor before though and I think they are Bohemian.
I wondered if they were a Kralik.

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