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Offline chopin-liszt

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Re: Unknown threaded type glass vase -ID help
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2020, 08:27:12 PM »
That is an excellent illustration of flattish trailing, thanks!
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Re: Unknown threaded type glass vase -ID help
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2020, 08:56:25 PM »
Thanks :D I only got it last Thursday and only just discovered what it was when looking at some designers Cat mentions in the cafe, doubly pleased I picked it up ;D
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Re: Unknown threaded type glass vase -ID help
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2020, 11:06:30 PM »
That's phenomenal - really fabulous shape, colour, design.   It has everything.

The colour reminds me of a colour called Bleu Lavande used in 19th century French glass and also early 19th century Bohemian glass.

this is an example of early 1800s Bleu Lavande French - so you can see the colour:
http://www.artaste.it/res/import/upload/23/66/550x550/423.jpg

The shape and the intricacy and precision of the design and technique reminds me of contemporary Japanese studio glass.

 Just musing.  No real idea though.  But it's stunning.



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Re: Unknown threaded type glass vase -ID help
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2020, 11:38:13 PM »
I'm just wondering out loud -  although the design goes completely to the rim, and the neck rim might not be the right shape for this use anyway - whether this might have been designed for Lampe Berger at some point and is missing it's metal ware and wick etc. 
As I say, just wondering out loud :)
one example here:

https://leverreetlecristal.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/v13.jpg

and others here:

https://www.pinterest.ca/maudeboudreault/lampes-berger/

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Re: Unknown threaded type glass vase -ID help
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2020, 12:55:48 AM »
OK , well :)))
I will once again say that the trail relief is not acid etched- I have seen all kinds of etched glass and this is not the case!
The simplest proof is the trail line at the bottom - one will need to etch the whole bottom just to have this line in relief ( i. e high)
Also the edges of the trails are so uniform that could not have been done by carving or acid. The trailed decoration is either applied ( i.e laid)
or the whole vase was made in a mould. Of course I could be wrong ...
I have to take a really really closer look at it on daylight.

And yes flying free - the color is just what you said it is Bleu Lavande or Blue Lavender - thanks a lot!
 It could have been Lampe Berger but it is hard to say.
Just took  a look at the interior and there are what looks like calcium deposits to the walls and bottom as consistent with the use of a vase.
Also the area around the waterline is particularly dirty as of decaying plant matter etc.
Also with this color and shape I would rather say it was used as Hyacinth vase.
You can also find this flower in very similar color.

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Re: Unknown threaded type glass vase -ID help
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2020, 12:57:08 AM »
A nice piece, but not something I recognise. The lampe Berger suggestion is interesting and seems possible given the form and dimensions.

As to the decoration, I believe that the piece was hand trailed with a viscous resist then acid dipped. the freehand trailing of the resist is what gives the random trailed design, while the uncoated parts were cut back by the acid. This also explains the marks on the base where the tails of the resist layer have dripped onto the base.  As others have noted, the matte background and sides to the design are typical of acid cut designs.

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Re: Unknown threaded type glass vase -ID help
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2020, 01:07:58 AM »


As to the decoration, I believe that the piece was hand trailed with a viscous resist then acid dipped. the freehand trailing of the resist is what gives the random trailed design, while the uncoated parts were cut back by the acid.

This I think may put an end of the discussion how it was decorated! It makes sense now!
I think you are probably right! Thanks a lot!
One thing I am still wondering if this is the case- why were these matte areas of the trailing not cut by the acid? or maybe they were exposed to the acid on later and for shorter time when the acid made its way under the viscous resist.
By the way- the vase was found in Sweden -lots of glass and makers here but also all kinds of  nice foreign glass as well.
PS: absolutely right - I agree and I am convinced - the vase seems to be acid etched. I guess I was too focused on something wrong
Many thanks!

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Re: Unknown threaded type glass vase -ID help
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2020, 07:15:15 AM »
The matte bits are where glass was removed by the acid

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