Topic: Drinking glass, early 20th or late 19th ?

[keith]

5.25 inches tall, vertical ribs. large very shallow pontil mark and tools marks to the foot and bowl, no nice ring quite a dull sound and heavy. What looks like a thumb print to the base is in the glass 

[mhgcgolfclub]

Hi Keith

Last week I nearly posted a picture of this glass which is similar in design.
Height 6.5" and does not ring either. Maybe there related.

Roy

[keith]

They are aren't they, still learning about drinking glasses, hopefully someone will point us in the right direction 

[Paul S.]

both glasses are remarkable insofar as they lack features that usually help to provide some indication of history etc.
Both stems are about as unhelpful as could be imagined - shallow depressions under the foot, where the scar was removed, are very common for much of the C19 and C20 and optical moulding and tool marks have too long a history that equally lack indication of any particular period.
I could be wrong, but the depression I think I'm seeing isn't what I'd call 'large'  -  large in the sense of an early C19 Georgian depression, which often might occupy two thirds or more of the underside of the foot  -  this one looks 'non-large'

The assumption might be that the lack of a good ring means not lead glass which suggests not high quality, and would be interested as to why the suggestion of the period indicated in the subject heading

I don't see any mention of wear  -  regret I've no idea as to origin or date, other than to suggest, vaguely, middle third C20  -  but am happy to be proven wrong, as always.
Sorry this is unhelpful  -  judging by the absence of replies I'm afraid you may struggle to nail these down.

[keith]

Can't speak for Roy's but the pontil. although shallow is around 2 thirds of the foot, there is a very thin line of wear all around the edge of the foot, the stem is very plain but the weight makes me think it's not too recent but as I said drinking glasses are new to me 

[Paul S.]

go on - bet you say that to all the publicans

must be the picture coming across on the screen Keith  -  the depression looked small to me, so guess I'm not seeing it all.       
Wish these two had something in their design/appearance that might help to connect them to some particular period -  some wheel engraving, stem/knop design that might help, or particular feature of the feet.              It's such hallmarks that guide, usually, when trying to say to which era a glass belongs, although obviously it's not a foolproof method, and pieces like these seem to defy being pigeonholed.              Only my opinion of course, but I don't see these as being C19.
Such a pity that drinking glasses appear to have such a minority following here.

[keith]

Shame there are no books on 19th century drinking glasses, I'd go with late 19th maybe early 20th for both 

[Laird]

There are few clues here. The stem is without a flourish. To my eye, the design looks utilitarian, and there aren't any characteristics that would suggest to me Victorian. My 'best guess' would be first half of 20th century, but it's a shot in the dark - I could be very mistaken. To help with attributing dates to decanters and drinking glasses I am finding The Hallmarks of Antique Glass (Wilkinson) useful.