Topic: Czech glass vases?

[bat20]

Hi ,this two vases are 8" ht with a trailed decoration over mother of pearl background,no Pontil mark and most probably not a top top maker,but they seem fairly old maybe late 19 C ?? Anyone recognise the decor that could be pinned to a maker,thanks.

[Paul S.]

 nope, sorry  - but...…...……  assume an absence of any marks on the top metalwork, which might have helped  -  the collars appear dark with age - does that sound right?         I don't have my booklet on 1920s - 30s Czechoslovakian glass  -  but these make me think in that direction, possibly  -  maybe Keith will have a look to see if such a colourway as these is in the book.

Perhaps trailed not quite the correct description for these - marvered in and then mould blown possibly, but they're colourful.

[bat20]

Hi Paul,I looked at one of the collars and there was no marks,but after your post ii've just looked at the other and there maybe two minute stamps although I'm going to need a loupe to confirm,which I haven't got and I can't find my magnifying glass !!yup they are blackened with age.I've not heard of marvelled before so thanks for that aswell,I assumed some sort of trailing because it carries on over the base in a thin green line,as seen on base shot.

[chopin-liszt]

My tummy says it thinks about Rindskopf. 
But it might just be wind. 

[Paul S.]

likely then that the collars are darkened with oxide on the silver, though they may only be plated and not Sterling.        Unfortunately, knowing the maker of the collars, doesn't tell us who made the glass, but at least there's a chance you might get to find out which country of origin.

[chasdevlin]

You might like to look at this link which shows a similar piece (if not quite the same).
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/262075-rindskopf-kralik-or-pallme-koenig-i

Tying it down to a specific Bohemian glass factory might be difficult, maybe Obscurities will see it as I'd be interested in what Craig says.

[Paul S.]

not Captain Marvel on this occasion   -  'Marvering' in the glass making sense indicates that the original gob from the glory hole was picked up on the blowing iron  -  and here is Harold Newman's explanation ('An Illustrated Dictionary Of Glass') of the word marver  ...…...…….

""A polished iron or marble table upon which molten glass, gathered on the end of an iron tube (Blow-Pipe) or rod (Pontil),  is rolled into a globular or cylindrical symmetrical mass.           The process is known as 'marvering'.              As the 'paraison' (gob/gather/bubble)  is very much cooler than when it was first attached to the blow-pipe or the pontil, it does not adhere to the marver.""

words in italics are mine.     

I'd suggest the word trailing  -  applying threading or thin trails of glass to a body   -  should be confined to additional work after the body is cool, and is seen as external ornament, rather than as this piece appears.
IMHO, decoration on the vases here was marvered/rolled into the bodies whilst both the bodies, and this additional colouring, were plastic - thus the marvering forced the colours into the body, such that they are never proud of the surface of the vase  -  possibly then the vases were blown.

[bat20]

Thanks Chas,that's great to see something so close and with a date.Very interesting Paul thanks for the education,the decoration is flatter to the body of the glass at the top and slightly more raised as it moves down the body with the thickest part on the base.

[Paul S.]

meant to say that I thought the link from Chas was a very good choice and the similarity is quite striking.

[bat20]

I don't think they have been cleaned for years,so I gave them a gentle sponge over ,here's a better look at the decor.