Topic: ID sought for makers etch mark "nj"

[nocross]

I have two tankards and a small bowl that have what looks like an etch mark of "nj"  where the n sits in the foot of the j, or at least that's what it looks like to my untrained eye.
I've searched a number of websites and books to no avail, even here.

Please can someone help.

[chopin-liszt]

Your photos blur the letters of the mark - I can't make them out.
Could you try rubbing a little talcum powder or even cocoa over the etched mark with your thumb to bring it up better, and take another pic?

From what I can make out, it might be Dartington or Reidel.
It's a very traditional sort of cut and I associate Dartington and Reidel with rather more adventurous work. 

[flying free]

It looks like a Nachtmann piece?

https://cookinglife.eu/nachtmann-tall-drink-glass-noblesse-37-cl-set-of-4/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp9r6koLY6gIVyO3tCh0gWAYPEAQYBiABEgJArvD_BwE

mm,maybe not. Just realised the design is different on looking at your pics again.  I didn't see the fan shape initially and thought it was vertical individual cuts.  Sorry.

Good photo of a Nachtmann mark here though if you want to try and compare yours as it might just be an older design cut onto your item perhaps?
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive-Pottery-Glass-Porcelain/Can-anyone-identify-this-glass-maker-mark-I-believe-that-it-is/td-p/23870127

[nocross]

Thanks. I've tried the talc trick hopefully the mark is clearer

[flying free]

Pattern cut is the same as this set called Speymore

https://www.forevercrystal.co.uk/speymore-cut-crystal-whisky-glasses-set-of-6/


No idea what or who Speymore is  - maybe the design name of the cut?


Then there is the Replacements site - where you'd have to do a search to try and find a match:

https://www.replacements.com/crystal/most-popular-patterns

[chopin-liszt]

Speymore might be the name of the cut.
The paper label on the glasses reads Caledonian, which might be the maker. I haven't heard of them.
There is a fairly newish company, Glencairn, which makes traditional cut stuff too. It's been around maybe 15 -20 years.
The trouble nowadays is there are so many middle men and subsidiaries and agents you haven't a clue where something actually comes from. 

[flying free]

The trouble nowadays is there are so many middle men and subsidiaries and agents you haven't a clue where something actually comes from. 

Yes, I remember this issue being discussed on the board years ago - was it where Edinburgh Crystal stuff was being produced?
I also remember Ivo mentioning ( maybe Slovakia?) as somewhere where much table glass was being produced.

[chopin-liszt]

Edinburgh and Waterford both contract out. Waterford calls that stuff Marquise (or is Marquise the genuine Waterford stuff? it's got a waterhorse logo)
Edinburgh also does, but not for its signature patterns of Iona, Star of Edinburgh and the Thistle one.

I was referring more to things like the importer LSA, and these new companies - like Glencairn - (and perhaps this one, Caledonia) which might well be all made elsewhere and just imported under a Scottish sounding name.

Not to older, more established companies contracting out.

[flying free]

yes, apologies   I was conflating two issues in terms of id.

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[chopin-liszt]

"They" set out to confuse and conflate. 
I just went on a hunt to try to find out where the glass Glencairn sell is made. They appear to be a company about 30 years old. (perhaps my time scale is out because I'm looking at stuff in the secondary market and it took 10-15 years for this to get there).
But I couldn't find out where the glass is blown. They give an address in Glasgow, which might be a glassworks. Or a storage facility. Or a printworks. Or a school. Low buildings in a block, all currently shuttered up.

What I did find, was a tankard that looks as if it could be the one in question! 

https://glencairn.co.uk/product/skye-tankard/