Topic: White and ruby cased napkin ring

[flying free]

Ajka Crystal also produce/d a red over white over clear. It's not the same red and I don't get a modern vibe from the napkin ring but adding it for comparison:

http://cutcrystalvase.com/ajka_hungary_ruby_red_double_cased_cut_to_clear_crystal_candle_holder_vase.htm

However Ajka also made this red overlay white overlay on clear vase - labelled and looks more similar in red colour:
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/73458164_ruby-red-glass-ajka-crystal-centerpiece-bow-hungary

Label reads 'Design Guild   Made in Hungary' and has two lions holding a flagpole in black on white paper label.  There is also a bar code label on the vase.

[neilh]

After some more evidence came in this white and ruby cased example is actually Butterworths after all - c1930 Manchester. We've found another one with a different pattern attributed to Butterworths which has the same casing.

[flying free]

Hi Neil

Thanks for coming back on this. Is there evidence for the other one?  You said attribution rather than identification so just wondering

Is it this company?
https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Butterworth_Brothers

m

[neilh]

Yeah that's the Butterworth Brothers we are talking about. They specialised in scientific and industrial glass but as the other Manchester companies shut down, they bought up Burtles Tate and their workforce and did some simple fancy glass. The napkin rings come in 5 varieties that we know of; plain, red cased, blue cased, red cased with white inside cased, blue cased with white inside cased.  We've identified 4 patterns to date - that circular one and three other general foliage. That may be the extent of their range.

[flying free]

Just in response and an update to my reply #2 and #3 re the chartreuse green colour seen in the Corning napkin ring (query over whether Clichy green or Saint-Louis as it can be seen in the Clichy book).  A French auction house have this perfume bottle in the chartreuse green cased over white as from Saint-Louis:


https://www.boisgirard-antonini.com/lot/96222/10062853?offset=200&

(Just in case someone comes across this in future searches)

[flying free]

Neil I'm curious about the napkin ring with foliage design.
Is it a cased napkin ring with a cut to clear leaves design on it?
Just wondering if there is a  chance of seeing the pattern at all please?
Thanks
m

[neilh]

I guess you'd call this foliage, they are small, little room for design

[flying free]

Interesting!  And lovely to see it.  Thanks for sharing. 

m

[flying free]

I have no idea why these didn't come up on previous searches but they are being sold as Saint-Louis.

You can see how fine the white underlay shadow is around the cut circles.

https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/dining-entertaining/glass/set-of-six-19th-century-french-st-louis-red-white-overlay-glass-napkin-rings/id-f_22062162/?&currency=gbp&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIj6HIqoPU7gIVi57tCh1xVgTCEAkYBCABEgKQxfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[neilh]

Interesting, of course these are unregistered so there is no guarantee only one manufacturer made these, there are other napkin rings in this ballpark of patterns which are of a different size and probably by someone else.