Topic: Large mushroom lamp shade - Art Deco? Scottish?

[chilternhills]

I bought this beautiful lamp shade the other day. I thought it might be Scottish and Art Deco. Considering the very low price I paid the seller must have been unsure too. But it is good quality.

It is mottled/marbled green and orange over white glass, with random dark bands. It measures about 37.5 cm maximum width, 18 cm high, the rim measures 35 cm on the outside and 34.5 cm on the inside. Therefore the glass is 5 mm thick.  I noticed on the John Moncrieff Lighting, Perthshire web site that they supply a 350mm circular brass shade carrier. I was wondering if the diameter of my shade and this carrier matching in size is by coincidence or whether this was a standard diameter.

I noticed two small white paint spots on it (easily removed), so it's been around long enough for someone to have redecorated their room.

Now all I need is a proper lamp base!

Thanks for your help.

Anton

[chopin-liszt]

  Hard to be absolutely sure, because lampshades can be very different to other output, and the shape looks sort of right, but my guts do not think this has anything to do with the Ysarts. 

[orangeglass]

Hi,
I agree with Sue,  not Monart and probably not Scottish ...several makers of this type of lightshade, possibly European....sorry, cant help with a maker.

[flying free]

French?
There is a company that's been making similar items to original art nouveau plafonier and shades etc in the last few years.  They are very pretty.  Can't remember the name now but John Glassobsessed might remember.

m

[flying free]

Looks like it belongs in something like this perhaps?

https://www.vessiere-cristaux.fr/tag-produit/lampe-pate-de-verre/

https://www.vessiere-cristaux.fr/boutique/cristaux-divers/luminaires/lampe-grand-modele-pate-de-verre-orange/

[glassobsessed]

Has the look of 'Cellophane' glass, especially the green and red, 3rd row down here:
https://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/NotYsart.htm

John

[chilternhills]

It could be by Art de France. An internet search turns up similar looking shades. One was sold at East Bristol Auctions in 2014 that is practically identical in size and shape though a different colour. The description is "An unusual 20th century Art De France studio glass decorative lamp shade. diameter 38cms". I had an Art de France lamp with a smaller mushroom shade once before. It was marked with the name of the company, though hard to see. I can't see any maker's name on my shade.

[flying free]

two here that say Art de France style and have the white interior. The colour lay on looks similar also.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pair-Of-Hand-Made-Art-De-France-Style-Glass-Tulip-Lamp-Light-Shades-/224100939127

[chilternhills]

I am pretty sure now that my shade is by Art de France. But what age is it? That might be hard to determine.

[flying free]

I see them sold as 20s and 30s but if I'm honest, I don't think they're that old. But that's just gut instinct.
I think a bit of research needed for dating it.

m