Topic: Pendant lamp shade w/ enamel trail/spot decoration - poss. Czech/Austrian/German

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Nick the lamp you linked to - something similar to that thick swirly design (in different colours - I've not seen it in that colourway) can sometimes be seen on items attributed to Ruckl.
I have a few pieces that I think might be Ruckl, but to be honest I'm never quite sure which bits definitely are and which aren't.  It's a bit of a minefield.
Anyway link to some items from the tango exhibition here - see photo 6 which has a squat piece at the front in a swirly decor in green, yellow and orange:

https://rover.rajce.idnes.cz/Tango_sklo/493183118


edited to add - possibly some better examples here?
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/222730-ruckl--lidded-dish?in=442


However there is also this vase - according to the site it's by Kralik.  I think it is a similar technique -
https://www.bohemianglass.org/katalog/vaza-streifen-und-flecken-1443/detail/

[Pinkspoons]

Oh, now that last one does look like it's been handpainted. That's interesting, in that it's the first one I've seen with this 'genre' of design other than mine.

But the Ruckl vases do match very closely the other shade I found.

I'll spend a bit of time hunting around tomorrow. Thanks once more!

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Elisabeth Glashütte, Wilhelm Habel

https://www.catawiki.com/l/7094537-elisabeth-glashutte-wilhelm-habel-hanging-lamp

And then there is this also but very difficult to compare technique :
http://www.artnet.com/artists/elisabeth-glasfabrik/vase-BaQpc1tuDM5zpcGKmIyU-w2

[Pinkspoons]

It looks to be all applied glass. Similarly, with Rückl, I couldn't find any evidence that they made enamelled designs.

I did find a Rückl website, though, that had a Kralik sub-category that showed similar decoration to the lampshade with the Kralik attribution I posted from Catawiki.

http://www.rucklczglass.com/kralik---more-decors.html

[flying free]

Yes, the problem is that Ruckl is a bit of a minefield to navigate so I try to avoid.

Craig's site (obscurities) Kralik-glass.com has some examples of Kralik based on shape id.  Kralik is also a minefield in that there is very little resource available to identify it at all (political reasons).

But also, there is a bit of a re-assignment of maker going on at the moment with someone investigating Ernst Steinwald publications, so some pieces that were Kralik are now being re-identified as Steinwald based on actual advertising contemporary to the time and a catalogue from them.

The owner of this site seems to have been the first to uncover this:
https://www.bohemianglass.org/katalog/ernst-steinwald-co/vz-12-webbed/

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The Steinwald pages just solved a long-running WMF Ikora knock-off lamp base mystery of mine!

I'll have a look around the rest of the site - looks interesting. Thanks.

[flying free]

I think Steinwald might have been there before WMF Ikora ?  Perhaps that's where WMF got their ideas?

But yes, I have reclassified two of my pieces and am hoping for an hitherto unidentifiable lamp to be identified as Steinwald.  But not there yet and there's something about the flatness of the base that means I have misgivings it will turn out to be Steinwald in the end.

I also have a gigantic vase that I have thought might be Kralik but never had confirmation.  The only other one to match was signed Schneider and looked authentic, but I've never been able to confirm that.

The Ernst Steinwald stuff is an exciting piece of ongoing research.

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Probably contemporaneous - the first Ikora pieces were 1926, this Steinwald lamp's page just says 20s-40s: https://www.bohemianglass.org/katalog/vaza-vz-5-370/detail/ (mine has the same form/colours, but looks somewhat closer to Ikora in terms of craqueleur). The Steinwald ones usually turn up in Germany with Zenith fittings.

The corporate story/myth is that Ikora decoration was discovered by accident at WMF after a batch of Myra glass went wrong. But who knows?

[Lustrousstone]

The Rukl site should be taken with a bucket of salt. Her attributions can be very flaky and based on no evidence

[flying free]

 Agree.  I try to avoid.