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Author Topic: Tall wine glass, mid to late 20th Century.  (Read 2095 times)

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Offline keith

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Tall wine glass, mid to late 20th Century.
« on: November 12, 2020, 06:41:56 PM »
Sold as late Victorian ( a gift from my brother ) hollow stem with ground down foot rim, the etching is very white and the glass is thin despite a nice ring, has anyone seen something similar ?

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Offline chopin-liszt

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Re: Tall wine glass, mid to late 20th Century.
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2020, 07:33:48 PM »
The etching looks like rather sophisticated ptero(some missing letters) - fern stuff.
The extra bits with lily pads and roots make it just a bit special. ;D
Is this style of etching not normally considered to be Scottish? I don't know if it happened as a cottage industry, but some of the shabbier stuff around certainly suggests it.

Edited to add:
But now I'm thinking it looks a lot more like wisteria than ferns!

More editing, after more peering:-
Strange foot grinding. Might it have been a folded foot somebody thought was odd and ground down?
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Re: Tall wine glass, mid to late 20th Century.
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2020, 09:19:42 PM »
It is Wisteria, I wondered that about the foot  ;D ;D

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Re: Tall wine glass, mid to late 20th Century.
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2020, 10:06:25 PM »
Nice looking glass.

In Miller’s collecting glass, there is an example of a similar elegant engraved goblet with spreading foot. It says “the spreading foot is distinctive of drinking glasses of the 1870s”. It says they were parts of a set, often given as wedding gifts.

I too wondered if yours originally had a folded foot, the foot looks very thin. I have a victorian engraved goblet with a similar simple clean form and thin glass but finely engraved with ferns (very much better than the usual engraving quality). My goblet has a similar spreading foot, but the foot rim is folded.
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Re: Tall wine glass, mid to late 20th Century.
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2020, 12:09:26 AM »
It doesn't have the feel, weight or colour of an old piece, can't see any tool marks on the bowl or foot  ??? ??? puzzled now  ::) ;D

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Re: Tall wine glass, mid to late 20th Century.
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2020, 11:28:53 AM »
Looks Victorian to me. Is that a small bump on the rim?, the remains of a shear mark.
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Re: Tall wine glass, mid to late 20th Century.
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2020, 12:47:10 PM »
Think that's the light, no shear marks, very uniform  ??? ;D

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Re: Tall wine glass, mid to late 20th Century.
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2020, 04:20:33 PM »
Here’s my goblet, bit more stumpy than I remembered. Feels very light for its size, just over 5 inches tall, but there isn’t much weight in the hollow stem and foot. When flicked it has a sustained bong rather than a ping, you can feel the bowl vibrating. I recon 1870s due to the spreading foot, nearer the 1880 end due to the ferns.
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Re: Tall wine glass, mid to late 20th Century.
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2020, 08:03:14 PM »
Is the etching on yours very white, I heard that this was a sign of more modern pieces ?

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Re: Tall wine glass, mid to late 20th Century.
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2020, 10:45:19 PM »
I wouldn’t have said so, it looks white in the top photo but only due to the light catching it. I heard something similar about the colour of engraving but only on a Bargain Hunt type programme. Can’t quite remember but think the context in that case was when trying to determine if engraving on a genuine Georgian glass was done at the time or added later.

When talking about etching, I might have misunderstood, I would say my glass has been wheel engraved, rather than etched?
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