Topic: Faintly Speckled Folded Rim Dish ID Help Request

[Roobarb]

Hello, I wondered if anyone recognised this piece? It has a rough pontil and seems as though it may be recycled glass. It's very light. Thank you

[Ekimp]

Hi. I might well be corrected

It looks like it has an applied rim that indicates something of better quality. It’s hard to see from the photographs but the rim looks quite narrow, not like the Mexican recycled glass glasses.

Are you sure it’s a rough/snapped pontil scar? It looks like it might be a pontil button with something pressed into it (like the signature stamp). I was thinking possibly Charlie Meaker but probably wrong.

[Roobarb]

Hi Ekimp

Thank you - I hadn't noticed the rim was applied, but checked after you mentioned it and it is! But I think it is a pontil scar, it's sharp and uneven with no sign of a signature. I got it in a recent auction lot which was all goods from an antique shop so really curious about it!

[Ekimp]

Ok, I have something from Charlie Meaker and the impressed mark looked pretty random, I thought I could see something in your pontil Hopefully someone might recognise it.

[glassobsessed]

I could see it being made in Murano perhaps Salviati circa 1900 but your photos don't show enough detail to be sure. Lightweight soda glass would fit, probably the way the foot is formed (but hard to see) and the blue powdered glass (polveri) giving that pale colour look right. The shape is throwing me but probably because I have not seen it before.

John

[Roobarb]

Thanks Ekimp the pictures aren't very clear so it's hard to make out the pontil. I've just tried to resize the pictures thanks to Sue's tech advice on another post. I'll upload them below!

Hi John, there are some other pieces which I got in the same lot that I've thought might be Murano from the era you mentioned. I'll attach a photo of them in case there's any connection. At first I thought they were Egyptian but then found similar ones by Murano done with what appears to be called the scavo technique. Thank you for this info John,  I'll have a look at Salviati!

Fingers crossed the size of the pics is better this time!

[Roobarb]

Photos seem bigger but better lighting needed next time I think! Here are the other vases that might be of some clue or completely irrelevant...

[glassobsessed]

Your Scavo vases have little if any connection at all. The two paler examples might be from Murano, there seems to have been a short lived fashion for similar in the 60s or 70s, not a clue about the darker square example but suspect all are relatively modern. This kind of 'aged' glass is made for museums and antiquity sites around the globe.

Back to your dish, is it formed from a single piece of glass or is the foot added? How big is it?

[Roobarb]

Its's 18cm in diameter, and I believe the foot is added.