Topic: Identification please can you help

[collector]

This glass is part of a large suite of glasses and I have no idea or history on it.  Would any one be able to identify the pattern? maker" year? etc.  The glass is crystal and very fine and old. The stem is faceted cut and joins the bowl with petal cuts.  The base is flat no markings.  If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you

[collector]

Im having awful problems with the uploading of photos but here is another one.  Thanks

[brucebanner]

Looks like a late Victorian wine glass i reckon impossible to attribute to a maker.

[collector]

Thank you as I thought.  Could you tell me where I could start looking to see if I could find out anything?  They are very fine and well made and I just thought that they would have been expensive in their day.  Many thanks

[collector]

Also, I forgot to add that one of the bases has been stapled at some time and also a couple of the stems have been repaired with further wound glass strands...they actually look lovely but I have no idea on repairs either....can you advise?  Thank you

[Ekimp]

The base is flat no markings.

I might be missing something, but it doesn’t look like there is any pontil scar. Assuming there is no pontil scar or shear mark, I would think they are likely to be later than Victorian.

If you have a very close look at the cutting, you should be able to see if it has been acid polished or not. Acid polishing will look less sharp and without fine marks from the wheel, I think that started around 1920s/1930s.

The repairs sound interesting, someone obviously valued them. It would be interesting to see the “wound glass strands” repair, I’ve not seen that before.

[collector]

Thank you for helping me.  I have attached 2 photos of the repairs, they look professionally done and the stem repairs are nice and straight.  I have never seen anything like this so any info would be appreciated.  I agree, no pontils and the cutting seems to be hand done, very fine and quite sharp.. I have looked closely and it is not uniform giving the impression it is hand done and the criss cross cuts actually look mitred?  Any help at all to answer any of my questions and point me in the right direction would be appreciated, as I do believe that these are fine glasses.  Thanks

[brucebanner]

I once thought the same about the acid dipping leaving the glass smooth. One of the last surviving cutters down the road from where I live reckons its all about how long they have been acid dipped for. He had a razor sharp cut vase just back from being acid dipped which he had cut a couple of days before. It would give Georgian cutting a run for its money. I could not see the base of these on my phone the image being blurred. If no polished pontil then I agree early 20th century. 

Is the staple repaired glass the same pattern?

[Ekimp]

That’s interesting about the acid polishing. I have seen the smooth type of acid polishing and was going to show examples of both types for Collector but the only modernish glass I could find had sharp polishing where you can see the wheel marks! Nothing is straight forward.

Thanks for adding the photos of the repairs, I like the stapled one. I think the repaired stem has been hot welded where they heat the broken ends and hold them together and in this case, twisted at the same time. I assume that glass is shorter than the others?

You might try trawling through replacements.com to see if there’s a match but you’d probably be very lucky to find one.

[collector]

Thanks for all your help....I will take a look through Replacements but agree with you, almost impossible to find.....wish me luck