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Author Topic: Opaline posy vase ?  (Read 1631 times)

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Offline bat20

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Opaline posy vase ?
« on: September 10, 2021, 11:04:09 AM »
Hi all , this little vase has a broken pontil and a green tint to the glass , I’m used to seeing Walsh Walsh  straw opaline pieces, but I’m not sure if they used different colours ? Any thoughts , thanks .

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Re: Opaline posy vase ?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2021, 12:46:43 PM »
Hi, might it be a leech jar?
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Re: Opaline posy vase ?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2021, 02:49:59 PM »
Hi - have you put the u.v. torch on this piece?                     It might well be a leech jar or posy vase, but is it really opaline?         Opaline isn't simply coloured glass, and can't ever recall seeing opaline in the bi-coloured state i.e. part clear part coloured - the green here is almost what the States guys call vaseline, though it won't be if the green doesn't glow :)

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Re: Opaline posy vase ?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2021, 06:23:43 PM »
It's opalescent rather then opaline. I suggest that possibly English is probably as good as it gets.

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Re: Opaline posy vase ?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2021, 06:51:15 PM »
Think it is a leech pots, have a look at the seventh photo down here: http://www.gardenwithindoors.org.uk/leechpots
I would much prefer a leech pot to a posy vase.
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Re: Opaline posy vase ?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2021, 07:00:15 PM »
My money is on it not glowing under  uv light. I have a similar coloured bowl which is not uranium, although there must be exceptions.

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Re: Opaline posy vase ?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2021, 08:18:28 PM »
despite Christine's comments  -   usually more knowledgeable than mine, I'm wondering if that circular appearance to the snapped point scar, is the result of a hollow pontil rod rather than a solid one.         Continental rods - so I understand - were sometimes hollow.            Just a suggestion - what do folk think? :)

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Re: Opaline posy vase ?
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2021, 06:38:14 AM »
Thanks for replies ,it doesn’t glow. I’m never sure about labelling these things as leech jars after a debate on here about them, I think someone thought they maybe seed jars ??

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Re: Opaline posy vase ?
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2021, 08:36:58 AM »
Paul, you're right, Biot glass in particular transferred pieces from the blowpipe to another blowpipe rather than a solid pontil rod to do the finishing work to the rim etc. This left a circular pontil with the same smooth finish to the glass inside and outside the ring. They also domed the base to prevent the pontil mark from damaging surfaces. This piece appears to have both these features although the pontil does seem a bit crude.
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Re: Opaline posy vase ?
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2021, 09:05:37 AM »
This type of pontil scar seen frequently on bottles/ flasks blown in piece molds and pattern molded in dip molds [ in USA]. Dating roughly 1820s to 1870s. So much so that collectors have designated it a " tubular pontil ".

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