Many thanks for your info, did you just mean a search of and auction houses listed on google, I looked at quite a few, as well as Google’s completed listings but couldnt see it listed, I did buy it last night on eBay, as I figured like you said, I really liked it and no matter for me no box and certificate. However I am being surprised as it’s a Caithness one, I would have expected to have found some listings as was one of a hundred made 2006, but haven’t found any other listings. I had though I had previously seen on Caithness site, but not there now. It was advertised on eBay with the word word retired in brackets, am I right assuming that would mean all 100 were sold and not making any more? Any thoughts welcome