Topic: Small footed bowl ..salt ?

[bat20]

Hi , this bowl is 2” high with a few air bubbles and small white inclusions, there is a few spots of wear along the foot where it sits.It has a small roughly polished pontil and a bit of the broken pontil remaining, finally it’s fairly thick .Any thoughts on use and age ? Thanks .

[NevB]

I'm pretty sure it's a late Georgian salt probably early 19th Century. A nice piece 

[Paul S.]

you may well be correct Nev  -  what in particular suggests this is 1800 - 1830? 

[NevB]

The shape and the appearance of the glass and also the small ground pontil similar to wine glasses of that time. There are some similar ones online. It may even be a bit earlier.

[bat20]

That’s the area I was thinking and perhaps later 18th ,there is a lot of tooling marks which I should have mentioned . I’ve found one one on line described as a salt with a firm dating of 1810,but how they can be so exact always surprises me ?!, perhaps the foot shape.

[Paul S.]

hmmm  -  I remain to be convinced.         I usually associate wide shallow ground pontil depressions with the first quarter of the C19, not small depressions, and tooling marks can be found on much glass up until machine work in the C20.       I'd also be very wary of on-line dated attributions unless supported with v.g. provenance  -  I always remember one seller who added to his sales text  -  "18th or possibly C19 - you make up your own mind."

If you look at Wilkinson, Fig. 236  -  he shows ten salts dating from c. 1730 - 1880, none of which look anything like this one.         It's not that I'm saying this can't be the date Nev suggests, but that the features mentioned might be almost anywhere in the C19.
The apparent small amount of wear would seem unusual for a piece of basic utility table ware that was 200 years old, or more.

[bat20]

There are spots of wear which are well worn which maybe a better way of putting it, and white seed li
ke inclusions always pushes me back a bit in time, it could easily not be a salt though ?!.

[bat20]

Here’s the link I found , you have to scroll down a bit ,I don’t know much about them though .


https://legacyantiques.co.uk/glass/19th-century-glass/tableware/salts.html

[NevB]

Bat20, yes it has quite a bit of wear on a small contact area. It's difficult to see but the pontil appears to be less than 1/2" across and I think this could date it to around 1800 but maybe as late as 1850. It's density also might help date it, P.7 of this post is about that,

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,10321.0.html

I think neilh says that  a density around 3.2gms./cm3 or above will date a piece to pre 1840. My gut feeling is it's earlier.

[Ekimp]

I’m with Paul on this. I wouldn’t be able to say it definitely wasn’t that old but it has the look of some much more modern stuff to me. I would wonder if that sort of applied foot was right and wouldn’t they normally be cut? For some reason I don’t like the look of the bubble. I have a few vintage bowls that have enough wear to make them Georgian Is there any reason to rule out vintage rather than antique?