Topic: wine, custard, tumbler and Richardson White Opaline.

[Paul S.]

.............  and all for about £7.50.          I'll post the Richardson white opaline vases, separately, in 'British', later, but just wanted to show this morning's charity shop finds.      The vases are possibly c. late 1840s, the wine is T/Webb, the custard and cut tumbler are anonymous. 

[NevB]

Your charity shops are obviously far superior.

[Paul S.]

.......  though it does take a lot of looking, shoe leather and fossil fuel  -  and it helps when you've looked at a few books  -  then again it can be many weeks before anything else good turns up.      

[flying free]

sick with envy - the Richardson vases are c.1848 I think.
I need a very good close up of the decoration on them pleeeeasse.
The one on the right - very similar dec currently for sale somewhere at about £500 I think
m

[Paul S.]

Hi m  -  well, I'd give you all the images you care for, but ....................    have just spent half an hour typing and re-jigged some pix, only to get the 'error 403', and 'you don't have permission to access this site' messages - so currently unable to help I'm afraid.           Suppose I shall try again tomorrow.            The decoration is sepia transfer, and there's an almost identical example showing in Hajdamach - page 101 - colour plate No. 9.                Ah, but if only they were one of the coloured opalines  -  gorge-de-pigeon perhaps

Yes, think you're correct about the date  -  I'd already typed c. 1847 - 1848.               That filigree gilding is identical on both  -  it's the other picture that is different on each.

[flying free]

Ok, thank you. Sepia transfer is not what mine is, but good to know.

Aahh, yep, the opalines.  The French did the most gorgeous opalescent opalines early 1800s.  The Bohemian's made the most beautiful and incredible colours, both with bone ash and alabasterglas early 1800s-1850 - utterly stunning experiments and colours from the various factories. 
The English - well who knows what they made c.1851.  The Great Exhibition catalogue shows a myriad of colours but doesn't say whether they're opaline or not.  And the only ones that have come to the fore are transfer printed and sometimes painted white opaline although Richardson did make a yellow and green opaline gin/rum carafe.  But that's it  as far as I've ever seen.

Would still love to see close up detailed pics if you can finally upload them.
What a great find

m

[flying free]

Just adding some information that I put on your British Glass post of these items.  I hope you don't mind  (still VERY envious of your lovely finds  )

On that thread you wrote: ' Opaline has a translucent appearance, and produces the well known sunset glow, ...'

Opaline glass does not always produce the well known sunset glow.  It can also be made without this glow.

I think I have got to the bottom at some point of what might cause opaline glass to glow or not (will try and find source and link).  It appears in glass made with bone ash but I actually think it's lead arsenate crystals (??) that produce the glow.
Opaline glass made without this glow can be  known as 'alabasterglas', e.g. pertaining to glass from Bohemia, and was made for example at Sklarna Annin (Annathal bei Schuttenhofen) in the 1830/40s and I think also the factory Adolfhutte bei Winterberg.  That is also opaline glass but it does not glow.  It's made with a different composition. I think containing tin oxide.

I do have a source for this information about the opalescent glass that contains (?)Lead arsenate(?) .  I will try and find it.

In Venetian glass of the 16th and 17th century this opaline glass with the sunset glow was known as Girasol glass


Opaline glass with the sunset glow is known as opalescent glass but it is still opaline glass.
Opaline glass can appear without this glow dependent on it's chemical constituents.

Opalescent glass can also be made by the way the batch is made up and then the subsequent way it is cooled.

[bat20]

What a great haul congrats , I know it doesn’t go like that every trip 👍

[Paul S.]

thanks for the congrats bat20  -  you're right, it doesn't go like that every trip  -  nor every other trip - nor every hundredth trip  -  but great when it does.          Do you think my assessment of a custard for that small three piece moulded job is about o.k.?

[bat20]

Not sure about the custard, I think the tumbler may 1850 !,

http://www.bonnonsantiqueglass.co.uk/Rummers_and_Tumblers.html