Topic: Welz tango ?

[bat20]

Hi ,I came across a few pieces on line with very similar colours to this bowl described as tango glass from about 1930 and made by Welz .It has a small polished pontil with an applied darker blue glass for the rim and feet,can any one confirm , or did all the bohem factories do the same ??thanks …the lighter blue is a better depiction of the true colour.

[flying free]

mm, that could be  Loetz or Kralik tango glass. 
Have you checked Craig's site to see if it appears on there? 
http://www.kralik-glass.com/

[glassobsessed]

I have some of these plates knocking around, at some point I decided they were most likely Welz. Would describe the blue as a powder blue and it has a tiny hint of purple. A little different from the tripod vase which is more of a sky blue, I think that one could be Kralik.

John

[bat20]

Thanks for the replies John and m,here’s a few more photo’s in a different light and I found a Loetz bowl 22cm wide and 9cm high , my piece is 22cm wide and 8.7 cm high. The feet on the Loetz piece are curled over more although the part that attaches to the bowl is very similar ..

https://scottishantiques.com/Michael-Powolny-Tango-Glass

[glassobsessed]

Yours looks like a different blue again. I take the attribution of Loetz to that bowl with a pile of salt.

John

[bat20]

😂 ,thought you may say that John,I don’t leap any more either.It’s a mine field !.Can you get similar Opel colours in different lights  with your plates or are they more solid in colour ?

[English weather]

Thanks for the replies John and m,here’s a few more photo’s in a different light and I found a Loetz bowl 22cm wide and 9cm high , my piece is 22cm wide and 8.7 cm high. The feet on the Loetz piece are curled over more although the part that attaches to the bowl is very similar ..

https://scottishantiques.com/Michael-Powolny-Tango-Glass

What you have found is a bowl described as Loetz Tango from a dealer. I can find no reliable evidence of this colourway ever having been produced by Loetz.

[bat20]

Ok , apologies to all,I misread the post .Can I add that I hope you you stay Paul, your comments are always welcome .

[English weather]

There is a range of glass designed by Michael Powolny for Loetz.

There are follow on productions by Wetz, Kralik and others that look similar to Tango but are not and they never called it so.

To heap the same name on to all glass similar causes confusion. It would best be called Tango Style.

Using the same name leads to such instances as follows and that is the danger of comparing "similar" to actual.

. Ref. loetz.com Michael Powolny:

"The 2009 Herman Spaink book 'Loetz Tango Glass' includes many (very good) photos of glass which the author wrongly attributes to Powolny and/or Loetz. This has caused huge confusion in the art glass world; indeed, this book is probably the single biggest source of Loetz misattributions. Just today I searched ebay.com for 'loetz tango'. I had 71 hits, many including Powolny in the description, and much more than half were not made by Loetz and almost all had no connection whatsoever to Powolny. Several of those that do look like Loetz products in the photos must be approached with care – Vienna's many souvenir shops are full of passable modern reproductions of the genuine Powolny designs for Loetz, and these sometimes find their way to eBay or to auctions described as Loetz originals"

[flying free]

The Tango Sklo exhibition in 2012 showed a variety of colour combinations from a number of different manufacturers ( not just Loetz) under the name of Tango Sklo -  in the Muzeum Vysociny Havlickuv Brod in collaboration with Glass Museum Novy Bor:

https://img25.rajce.idnes.cz/d2502/6/6618/6618931_d7add26663f00a4768ca6795ee744bc3/images/02_tango_sklo_-_promeny_barevnych_kontrastu.jpg?ver=3