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Author Topic: Antique Perfume bottle (I think)..but how old and from where ?  (Read 1495 times)

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Offline cagney

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Re: Antique Perfume bottle (I think)..but how old and from where ?
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2022, 05:40:06 PM »
  These little bottles have been widely collected in the U.S.A. for the last 70+ years. Still popular to this day. Especially ones in color, pattern moulded, blown moulded and free blown.
In their book" American Bottles & Flasks" "and their Ancestry"by Helen McKearin and Kenneth M. Wilson c. 1978 they show clear examples much like yours in shape and quiling as probably English and possibly American. Hard to tell as the prevailing taste of the time (18th early 19th c. U.S.) favored English style/design in most wares. The collector term for the shape would be "corseted".
 
  A cursory search on Norman C. Heckler website of past auctions shows some colorful examples in auction #141 from 2016. Norman C. Heckler probably the premier auction house in the U.S.A. for early bottles.

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Re: Antique Perfume bottle (I think)..but how old and from where ?
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2022, 06:52:08 PM »
Yes, I wasn't daring to presume the same age or maker, Sue, just referencing the only thing I could find. Apologies about using someone else's photos there - I didn't think of copyright issues.
That's an interesting reference site, Cagney.
I guess that what went inside hand-made little bottles like this might depend on who bought them. Or do you think style and shape dictated function?
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Re: Antique Perfume bottle (I think)..but how old and from where ?
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2022, 07:03:48 PM »
Interestingly Sue, I bought a beaker the other week which appears, to my untrained eye, to be an old copy of a medieval European beaker with rigoree and blue trailing. Looking at an original on the Corning Museum site the original rigoree was much freer and less precise than mine. I assumed the glass artist making mine was used to being more accurate. But that again was just me guessing. I'm no expert on old glass (quite the opposite). It's an interesting beaker so I might try and post that for people to see on another posting.
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Re: Antique Perfume bottle (I think)..but how old and from where ?
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2022, 07:32:34 PM »
All very good points, Ian.
I was more thinking that ultra-top quality might be an indicator of true ancient Venetian glass rather than facon de Venise produced somewhere else, and the images with the really neat blue rigaree was supposedly true Venetian or at least very good facon de Venise.
I was not suggesting that the quality of work on the rigaree was an indicator of age, although it might read that way.
It was more a suggestion that the higher the quality, the more likely ancient Venice is involved.
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Re: Antique Perfume bottle (I think)..but how old and from where ?
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2022, 07:45:59 PM »
  Evidently many recipes for contents. Depending on what you would rather smell other than what was around you. Lots of newspaper advertisements in America and England for these bottles from 18th century onward. Very fashionable in the 18th century to sell within a carrying case of shagreen, ivory, pierced bone, silver, or tortoiseshell. Of course made in other countries as well.

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Re: Antique Perfume bottle (I think)..but how old and from where ?
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2022, 07:55:19 PM »
This is another useful reference site for anyone interested in these small bottles:

https://antiquebottlehunter.com/smelling.html


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Re: Antique Perfume bottle (I think)..but how old and from where ?
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2022, 08:04:14 PM »
 ;D Some of the bottles on that website look as if they belong in Ivo Haanstra's "Blue Henry" book, about sputum bottles.  ;)
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Re: Antique Perfume bottle (I think)..but how old and from where ?
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2022, 06:32:14 AM »
This one has some similarities (following Cagney and Sue's leads) to yours:

https://oldsouthjerseyglass.com/product_details/NjM5


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Re: Antique Perfume bottle (I think)..but how old and from where ?
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2022, 09:48:55 AM »
I vote Spanish 20th century.

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Re: Antique Perfume bottle (I think)..but how old and from where ?
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2022, 01:04:34 PM »
Hello Ivo!  :-*
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