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Harrach? Frosted Blue Vase.
« on: September 18, 2022, 10:26:29 AM »
There are similar shaped vases online in alabaster, uranium green and enameled glass attributed to Harrach but I can't confirm this. I think it's Bohemian around 1900 and it's 26cm. tall. What's left of the gilding appears to have been applied directly to the glass with no base layer.
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Re: Harrach? Frosted Blue Vase.
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2022, 10:28:43 AM »
And a ground base.
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Re: Harrach? Frosted Blue Vase.
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2022, 05:30:47 PM »
It's hard to see the colour from your pictures.  They seem all completely blue including background.
Is it a very pale blue?

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Re: Harrach? Frosted Blue Vase.
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2022, 07:12:48 AM »
Yes m the photos were a bit blue, here's one which shows it better although it's difficult to get the true colour. The photo also makes it look glossier than it is.
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Re: Harrach? Frosted Blue Vase.
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2022, 07:42:39 AM »
A lot of digital cameras struggle to represent blues accurately for some reason, especially when there are several shades of blue close together. I used to find that natural light helped a little but it is one limitation of the technology it seems.

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Re: Harrach? Frosted Blue Vase.
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2022, 07:57:42 AM »
Yes John, I tried various methods and it was the best I could get.
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Re: Harrach? Frosted Blue Vase.
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2022, 12:23:52 AM »
Is it quite heavy?  Just curious.

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Re: Harrach? Frosted Blue Vase.
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2022, 07:56:14 AM »
m, it weighs around 230gms./8oz. so I'd call it medium weight. The bowl does ring nicely but I think that's down to the shape rather than any lead content.
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Re: Harrach? Frosted Blue Vase.
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2022, 06:43:44 PM »
I think it's much earlier than 1900.  Probably c.1860s   Although there are some photos online from a visitor to a museum that refer to opalines being shown at the 1873 Worlds Fair Vienna 1873.  In those photographs there is what appears to be a pink opaline version of yours in one of the cabinets.  That said, I've not looked through the books and so there is no primary source for that date info apart from the comment on these photographs and there were 3 or 4 pics of groups, so I don't know if all of them pertain to this referred to 1873 date.  I would think earlier than 1900 certainly though.

You should be able to see the pink version of yours here:  Top shelf right hand side of photograph
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-glass-museum-passau-bavaria-germay-111582230.html?imageid=3AC4C6F3-FB5F-4A8B-91E5-16066C95EF54&p=329548&pn=1&searchId=47130edf1076f22abbf2902f044c25ff&searchtype=0

Maker could be Harrach or Josephinenhutte or other makers.  Perhaps Schachtenbach? however I don't know when they ceased operating.  That might have been before the Worlds Fair?  I'm very hazy on Schachtenbach dates and what happened to the factory/name.

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Re: Harrach? Frosted Blue Vase.
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2022, 07:14:11 PM »
Das Bohmische Glas Band III shows some of those opalines dating to 1860s.  So whilst some of those in that linked photograph might have been shown at the Worlds Fair Vienna in 1873 I think some date to 1860s.  I'd have said yours was in the 1860s.

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