No-one likes general adverts, and ours hadn't been updated for ages, so we're having a clear-out and a change round to make the new ones useful to you. These new adverts bring in a small amount to help pay for the board and keep it free for you to use, so please do use them whenever you can, Let our links help you find great books on glass or a new piece for your collection. Thank you for supporting the Board.

Author Topic: Blue Opal Posy Vase - Powell or Walsh Walsh etc ?  (Read 653 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Novasonic

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 106
Blue Opal Posy Vase - Powell or Walsh Walsh etc ?
« on: December 04, 2022, 07:59:42 AM »
Hi everyone, 

I recently came across this lovely blue opal vaseline posy vase with a pontil scar on the base.  My original assumption was James Powell & Sons (Whitefriars) from late 19th century early 20th Century - but not sure (no polished pontil, just a scar).  It has a ribbed body.

8.5cm high x 5.5cm rim diameter

Any help / support much appreciated !

Many Thanks


Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline Lustrousstone

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 13629
  • Gender: Female
    • Warrington, UK
    • My Gallery
Re: Blue Opal Posy Vase - Powell or Walsh Walsh etc ?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2022, 10:01:18 AM »
It's not Powell (or vaseline, as that's usually reserved for uranium glass) with that pontil scar and the colour doesn't seem quite right for blue opal. It might be Walsh Walsh but probably English might be as good as it gets

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline Novasonic

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 106
Re: Blue Opal Posy Vase - Powell or Walsh Walsh etc ?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2022, 04:44:52 PM »
Ok thanks very much ! :)

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline cagney

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 328
    • U.S.A.
Re: Blue Opal Posy Vase - Powell or Walsh Walsh etc ?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2022, 07:12:13 PM »
  Curious as to why the pontil scar a problem?
Of the 4 pieces pictured all have a rough pontil scar. Granted the are all round and"neatly" snapped off. The two vases with thrown wavy rims are classic Powell. 100% sure Powell.
The striped fan vase correlates very well with a shape pictured in the Art Journal c.1890. Page 11, fig19 in Jacksons book, also page 154 fig. 243 [ although the shape of the stem is un-discernable in the photo]. 99% sure Powell.
The small dish with rope stem and ribbed foot 80-90% sure Powell. The bowl of this dish has the same green tint as the foot on the fan vase.

Pontils pictured are fan vase, thrown vases, dish, in that order. top to bottom

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline cagney

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 328
    • U.S.A.
Re: Blue Opal Posy Vase - Powell or Walsh Walsh etc ?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2022, 07:14:36 PM »
Last photo wrong, here is correct photo.

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline cagney

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 328
    • U.S.A.
Re: Blue Opal Posy Vase - Powell or Walsh Walsh etc ?
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2022, 10:40:34 PM »
  Upon further thought there is a simple answer to my own question. All the pieces I have shown the pontil cannot be seen unless turned over. With Novasonics vase most probably not the case.Whitefriars  standards at the time would most likely call for a polished pontil.



Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


Offline glassobsessed

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 6685
  • Gender: Male
    • Mdina
    • South Wales
Re: Blue Opal Posy Vase - Powell or Walsh Walsh etc ?
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2022, 08:56:50 AM »
Except with thinly blown items where there simply is not the depth of metal to polish out any scar (all of the items shown I expect).

John

Support the Glass Message Board by finding a book via book-seek.com


Offline Novasonic

  • Members
  • **
  • Posts: 106
Re: Blue Opal Posy Vase - Powell or Walsh Walsh etc ?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2022, 06:26:40 PM »
Thanks - I haven't handled much of this type of glass but I know that Powell's was often finely finished and made the assumption that it should have a pontil.

Always learning !

Support the Glass Message Board by finding glass through glass-seek.com


 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk
Visit the Glass Encyclopedia
link to glass encyclopedia
Visit the Online Glass Museum
link to glass museum


This website is provided by Angela Bowey, PO Box 113, Paihia 0247, New Zealand