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Offline LEGSY

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Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« on: January 24, 2023, 04:00:03 PM »
Found the decoration won me over to pay the price tag today at a local center i loved
the detail on the ducks there are three but the main one is the largest and most detaileld.
The scene shows them flying over pond fauna all nicely gilded with a Herringbone pattern
to the rim sadly a bit of wear on rim but mostly fine on the body. The feet have sharp thorns
and have been gilded also. The outside i think is a slightly yellowy white and the inner is rosy
pink which gradually reduces as it goes down to base this may be reason for outer looking
slightly yellowish but it seems a bit yellow and is UV reactive. Would love to know who made it
have a feeling maybe Webb possibly 7" in height and quite heavy really. tHANKS

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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2023, 12:43:27 PM »
It's not Burmese of any sort. That is not cased glass. It's heat reactive and shades from yellow/cream to pink bottom to top. I think the rim is ground and polished, which makes Bohemian more likely than English IMO. If not, it could be English and perhaps Webb (but which one?). I think I favour Bohemain and Harrach or perhaps Loetz, as it reminds me of this, which I'm told could be either http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=1507 (though I haven't put that on my web site).

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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2023, 02:30:27 PM »
The duck and clouds and moon are similar to these Mount Washington pieces:

https://www.cmog.org/artwork/burmese-vase-ducks

Same decoration as cmog above but a better photo:

https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/mt-washington-guba-ducks-decorated-burmese-double-c-3BE4396B49
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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2023, 03:59:23 PM »
Clouds are clouds and mallards are mallards. A piece of Mount Washington would be unusual in the UK

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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2023, 07:48:04 PM »
Really appreciate your comments and information very confused with this piece of glass i have gone through Loetz but there
feet do not seem quite correct the decoration does seem similar to the Mt Washington but think it is a better quality i will try
and take a few of the ducks in light tomorrow . The rim has not been chamfered on edges but i think it has had something
done on the top? hard to see as it has gilding and casing inside which makes it hard to see. Quite a heavy piece of glass really.
I have noticed a piece of Thomas Webb that was sold at fieldings auctions and it has a rim gilding in the same herringbone pattern?
Hopefully a few more will come in over the coming days and see it too thank you

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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2023, 08:03:56 PM »
Could it possibly be French? This one has clouds and mallards, and the irises seem to be a common French motif. Yours is much finer and possibly earlier.

https://madforglass.com/index.php/french-belgian-83
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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2023, 08:40:05 PM »
Clouds are clouds and mallards are mallards.

To me the ducks and clouds on the Mt Washington glass and Legsy’s glass are more similar to each other than most depictions of ducks and clouds, I think it’s the way the moon is shown :)  No, they are not identical, but maybe there is a connection.

This “Royal Flemish style” vase with ducks (no clouds)
https://www.cmog.org/artwork/royal-flemish-type-vase is an “imitation of Mt. Washington” by the Harrach glassworks, 1880-1900, ref From Neuwelt to the Whole World page 37.

Maybe Leggsy’s vase could be Mt Washington (nothing is impossible) or possibly an imitation by Harrach…or other. If it was mine I would be interested if it was an imitation of Mt Washington, even if the actual maker remained unknown.

It’ll be interesting to see the other side, and maybe a closeup of the duck so you can see the enamelling.
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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2023, 08:46:22 AM »
Some clearer photos of another of Nev’s French vases: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/126241252_french-glass-vase
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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2023, 01:24:02 PM »
here are some more pictures bare in mind my cam is
a very cheap one that cost me £5 but hopefully you can see the enamel
and gilding on top of that in places been quite nicely done i think.
I noticed on Loetz.com that loetz used to send the feet that they
made for there bowls to other companies including S&W.. this
can make attribution awkward at times.

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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2023, 01:27:05 PM »
The ducks were known as GUBA ducks when they were mentioned on vases
made by Mt Washington in USA i do agree that they look very much in the
spirit of there work and i suppose you can always have some paintress that
are better than others i would have thought but still not 100% sure .

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