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Author Topic: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.  (Read 1226 times)

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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2023, 05:39:24 PM »
Thanks for adding the extra clear photographs. The decoration looks quite fine and flat, more like a transfer but with some enamel highlights maybe? The gold on the Mt Washington and Harrach examples looks less fine, more raised and applied by hand to me. It’s hard to see the detail in the enamel ducks on the Harrach and Mt Washington examples.

Interesting about the Loetz feet😁
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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2023, 09:55:36 PM »
here are some more pictures bare in mind my cam is
a very cheap one that cost me £5 but hopefully you can see the enamel
and gilding on top of that in places been quite nicely done i think.
I noticed on Loetz.com that loetz used to send the feet that they
made for there bowls to other companies including S&W.. this

can make attribution awkward at times.

Could you add a link to the page on Loetz.com where it gives this information about the feet please?  Bemused.

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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2023, 09:06:30 AM »
If it's a transfer you will be able to see dots from the screen printing under a loupe, but I suspect these are all hand painted. Some enamel work is very fine and flat, as is some gold work. Gold is only raised when applied over a base enamel.

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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2023, 04:12:31 PM »
Could you add a link to the page on Loetz.com where it gives this information about the feet please?  Bemused.

m

Sorry for my late reply i am a total tech anorak so i am going to give you a very old style way of finding it :)
Type in google "early loetz glass" And when the list comes up there should be one for "loetz.com" called "An attempt to identify early loetz production from 1880-1897 click this and shortly it will open that long list of early loetz pieces if you scroll down to "63.01" this is where the information about that is located and pictures
of loetz feet hope that makes some sense i am going to have to learn how to do stuff online lol

Also the decoration on the vase is hand done not transfer.

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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2023, 06:47:43 PM »
That is not what it says at all, you have completely misrepresented it.

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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2023, 07:13:57 PM »
I don’t think the sentence is well written, I can see how it could be read that it was just the feet made by Loetz. It is actually saying whole objects with that type of foot may have been made for the British market by Loetz, but have been miss attributed as Stevens and Williams.
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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2023, 09:47:46 PM »
I still think it’s at least in part decorated by transfer. You wouldn’t see dots from screen printing if they used engraved copper plates to create the transfer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_printing

The hatching to create shade on the leaves looks like an engraving technique, and all the lines are very fine and precise. The ducks around the back look the size of a thumb nail, and did they really do that rim by hand? Anyway, might be wrong :)
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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2023, 10:06:43 PM »
I think that you maybe quite correct with the rim certainly, It has a real ridged feel when running a finger nail over it and with my
eye glass its prob not good enough to see well enough but possibly some means of printing has been employed. If you mean the straight fern
type plants yes i see what you mean it possibly is to straight & crisp maybe its been high lighted to give movement and realness not to deceive.
Main duck and large detailed flowers i think maybe hand done altogether again not 100% little beggar this piece. :) Thanks for the comments :)

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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2023, 02:42:03 PM »
link here
http://loetz.com/identifying-loetz-glass/early-loetz

The sentence in the link at item 63.01 is describing items with tree trunk like tooled feet.  It reads that some items that are attributed to Harrach and some items  that are attributed to Stevens and Williams may be wrongly attributed and quote 'some of which actually may have been made by Loetz for the British market'.

It's referring to the whole item, not just the feet.


Interested to find out who might have made this piece because the neck collar design detail and the pink interior remind me of the pink lobed Fishscale vases (if anyone remembers those?).

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Re: Large UV Reactive Enamel & Gilded Queens Burmese? Footed Vase.
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2023, 04:17:31 PM »
Thanks for doing the link to the Loetz.com site :) Those fish scale made me think of Moser fish design vases which have a similar
reed design as this but with fish instead of mallards although i realize not the one you mentioned sadly i can't remember the ones you mentioned
sorry  :( thanks

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