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Author Topic: Neodymium + sommerso glass bear - Help with ID - Seguso?  (Read 3955 times)

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Offline JayM

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Neodymium + sommerso glass bear - Help with ID - Seguso?
« on: July 12, 2023, 04:54:43 PM »
Hi all,

I need some help trying to ID the maker of this neodymium and ruby red sommerso piece. it is 15 cm tall and has a flat bottom.
I have seen some similar color pieces attributed to Archimede Seguso. Any ideas?

Also, what kind of animal is this?   :o  Looks like a bear with a long nose, maybe an anteater?


Thank you,

J.

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Re: Neodymium + sommerso glass bear - Help with ID - Seguso?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2023, 07:20:52 PM »
I know of some slightly comical animals made in a similar style with this red internal feature by da Ros of Cenedese. Might be a good place to start a search. I've found some pieces with neodynium glass too.
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Re: Neodymium + sommerso glass bear - Help with ID - Seguso?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2023, 07:26:38 PM »
Thank you Sue, will do some research in that direction!

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Re: Neodymium + sommerso glass bear - Help with ID - Seguso?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2023, 08:15:28 PM »
Have we spoken before?
- I suddenly see you have not posted often, so if I haven't said hello and welcome before, hello and welcome now. :)


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Re: Neodymium + sommerso glass bear - Help with ID - Seguso?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2023, 08:33:52 PM »
Yes! I see now you offered some help in a previous post of mine regarding a possible Jablonski piece!

Glad to chat with you again and thanks for your help!  :D

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Re: Neodymium + sommerso glass bear - Help with ID - Seguso?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2023, 12:42:02 AM »
May be a honeybear?

I did wonder about Zelezny Brod Sklo but I don't know enough to know if they produced that colour combination.  They used neodymium but I couldn't see any online with the red.

This is a marked ZBS owl for ear comparison although I suspect that might not be a defining factor :)  :

https://www.20thcenturyglass.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=7770

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Re: Neodymium + sommerso glass bear - Help with ID - Seguso?
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2023, 10:11:11 AM »
It might indeed be a honey bear! I thought it had a long and pointy snout but now I see it might be a tongue sticking out! Thank you  :D

Will look into Zelezny Brod pieces.

Thanks for the hints   :)


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Re: Neodymium + sommerso glass bear - Help with ID - Seguso?
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2023, 10:42:42 AM »
Following chopin-lizst's suggestion of Da Ros I found this hippo which has a similar feel re curvature of the body etc:

https://iconicdesigngallery.com/bar/antonio-da-ros-submerged-glass-hippo-for-cenedese-murano

It seems on the few Cenedese I could find with labels that the eyes are similar to those on your piece. 

I'm now not sure Železnobrodské sklo made pieces with the eyes done in that way but suggested it because the organic nature of the shape felt quite like some ZBS designs as well as the use of neodymium.

For comparison a ZBS animal here at auction:
https://livebid.cz/auction/zika_11ea/detail/131

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Re: Neodymium + sommerso glass bear - Help with ID - Seguso?
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2023, 11:04:57 AM »
Thank you! I just found this piece attributed to Cenedese as well.. this one has no label but all toghether it seems to point in that direction...

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/124416517_cenedese-bird-and-bear-glass-sculptures

Thank you Sue and M for the help  :)


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Re: Neodymium + sommerso glass bear - Help with ID - Seguso?
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2023, 11:18:34 AM »
Is that one positively id'd through a label or signature though? 

The thanks are all to Sue :)  I'd never have thought of Da Ros as Murano glass isn't something I collect.

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