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Author Topic: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier  (Read 627 times)

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Offline Madagin

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This pair of vases were brought to New Zealand from Japan in the early 1960's or late 1950's by my uncle and hence are assumed to be Japanese of age unknown - there are markings but nothing that Identifies as a manufacturer simply A model and a version which I assume relates to the pattern - these vases are 22cm high, 5.5cm at top opening, 6.5cm at the base and 10cm at widest point the flowers appear to be raised glass as I have seen on Murano style adornment  I have looked extensively and found nothing like them on the net and wish to identity any information possible ie maker or region of manufacture or if such a style has a name - anything is useful thank you

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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2024, 06:16:29 AM »
  Not Japanese numerals. The slashed number seven being distinct. Here's what Wikipedia has to say about ithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numeral_variations#Old-style_numerals
Some quasi Japanese influence maybe in the artworkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/Japonisme Probably made somewhere in Central Europe [Bohemia?] and possibly late 19th century. Nicely done and you have a pair!

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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2024, 06:31:10 AM »
Very interesting Thank you yes obvious now you point that out and well now a whole new track of investigation to begin we know they were not new when they arrived in the country and this explains why previous investigations have born no fruit

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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2024, 06:54:05 AM »
I have now discovered works from the Moser glass works in Czech Republic of same size and similar design I iwll write to the factory and post their reply if they make one

19th century glass wares by Moser A. S. (Czech Republic)

The Moser glassworks were founded by Ludwig Moser (1833 - 1916). He first opened a glass workshop in the centre of Karlovy Vary in the Czech Republic in 1857 and specialised in polishing, engraving, designing and making glass objects.

In 1893, together with his sons Gustav and Rudolf, he took over a glass factory in Meierhofen bei Karlsbad, so that he now operated a full service glassworks employing 400 people.

Ludwig Moser had developed a lead-free sodium-potassium glass that is more ecologically friendly than lead glass yet is extremely hard.

Within a short time he gained the reputation as the most prestigious producer of crystal in the Eastern Europe, supplying royalty and rulers such as Emperor Franz Joseph I of Austria, the Persian Shah Musaffereddine and King Edward VII of England.

Following the death of his father in 1916, Leo Moser took over the management, and the company expanded significantly with the

By 1922 the Moser company had become the largest producer of high-end drinking and decorative glass in Czechoslovakia

The company contracted during the Depression of the 1930s, and Leo Moser resigned from the company management in 1932 and then sold the family's shareholding in 1938.

The company is now publicly owned and listed on the stock exchange in the Czech Republic, where it has four outlets together with a worldwide distribution network, and the lead-free sodium-potassium glass developed by Ludwig Moser remains the basis of their products.

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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2024, 08:29:30 AM »
It might be worth pointing a UV light over them and seeing if they glow green ?

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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2024, 10:36:40 AM »
 With those marks Harrach would be another possibility. Try searching  "Harrach alphanumeric markings" for some images.
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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2024, 11:58:40 AM »
Definitely late 19th C and Bohemian. In that style (both glass and decor) and with those numeric markings Harrach is highly likely. The decor is all enamelling. Moser seems unlikely to me. I suspect the pair you show are not Moser either.

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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2024, 08:03:21 PM »
I'd vote for Bohemian and I'd bet they glow with uranium.
But the are not a pair. If they were, the images would be mirrored in each other, not identical. You have two vases with the same image on.
The enamelling is quite well done. :)
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Re: Japanese painted and gilded white glass Vase pr 1960's or earlier
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2024, 08:04:32 PM »
Thank you for your information, I have to say this journey has become a lot more fascinating than I had first imagined. I did not know this world of glass existed and had no knowledge of it - the supposed Mosser glass vases I posted were simply identified as such on an auction website. I have sent the images and a request to the Mosser works as I saw they had a museum email contact. I will now also approach Harrach glass - I did see an image of markings on what was claimed as a Harrach glass piece, and they do have similarity in form ( as attached) I also note from reading that Harrach were specialists in producing the white glass (called milk glass) for enameling which fits with how these vases seem to  be constructed.  Thank you for your assistance so far with this investigation.

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