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Re: Baccarat Uranium Goblet
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2024, 09:03:13 AM »
Thanks for updating the thread with the reply.  I'll take a bow :)

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Re: Baccarat Uranium Goblet
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2024, 11:25:57 AM »
A big bow m.
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Re: Uranium Goblet
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2024, 02:08:02 AM »
Sorry we don't have a Russia forum here (yet).
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Re: Uranium Goblet
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2024, 09:20:00 AM »
Thanks Anne.
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Re: Uranium Goblet
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2024, 08:57:03 PM »
Just to put the cat amongst the pigeons - I've just spotted this in the Musée des arts et métiers
https://www.arts-et-metiers.net/musee/verre-medicis-moule-larges-ecussons-peints-et-graves-moulures-modernes

15,5cm tall x 10cm - apparently date entered 1853
So it is a different size to yours however the bowl design is the same as yours as is the foot.
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I still think it's a different shape to yours especially given the piece is bigger than yours and the bowl definitely looks more squat however ...

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Re: Uranium Goblet
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2024, 10:13:59 AM »
I think that would be one of the original Baccarat designs from around 1840. I believe, and Mareike has confirmed it, that the French designs were copied all over Europe. I think there would be lots of variations on the basic design. The rim of the foot on that one also appears to be a downward convex curve, like other similar ones, mine is flat sloping facets.
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Re: Uranium Goblet
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2024, 09:55:50 PM »
Just for accuracy I think the museum have dated it 1851.  I believe it entered the collection in 1853 if I'm reading the info correctly.

I know they were made by other makers in similar style at later dates as you say but I'm just interested that that particular 'sideways lens' goblet has a foot like the one on your later goblet produced elsewhere, rather than like the one in the 1840/1841 Launay Hautin catalogue ... but has been identified as Baccarat.
So I'm thinking it's possible the later items from other companies were copying a later design by Baccarat e.g. c.1851,a design where Baccarat had made the foot hexagonal rather than ornate as in the 1840/41 catalogue. 
(It had occurred to me years ago looking into these, that it was odd they copied the design of the goblet but not the foot if you see what I mean?)

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Re: Uranium Goblet
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2024, 10:13:40 AM »
There are lots of other pieces in the 1840 catalogue which have a hexagonal foot so I don't see why they couldn't have made mine with a hexagonal foot later. I'd guess it was just a case of changing tastes and others copied the shape that was fashionable at the time.
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