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Carafe ID Whitefriars or Stuart?
glassobsessed:
From memory the purple vase is engraved "Rd 543290" but I will check tomorrow and get some photos of it. It just goes to show Paul that every 'rule' has an exception somewhere down the line...
A couple of images of the Peter Wheeler designed vase for reference below. I have had a few items from the later New Studio Range over the years and they were unsigned.
Examples of both here:
https://whitefriars-glass.com/studio-range.php
Paul S.:
too true John - sincere thanks for posting the Reg. No. It should occur in June 1909, but as I suggested yesterday it's missing from the Blue Book and though I can't be certain, the reason is likely to be that it's in CLASS IV - it seems that registrants would sometimes do this deliberately to hide a design. I will need to visit Kew to confirm my CLASS IV assumption and take a snap of the factory drawing. thanks again.
glassobsessed:
Started a new topic for the vase with Rd number, sorry, have been clogging this one up a bit:
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,73541.0.html
Keith Mick:
Quite by chance I came across a snippet of info related to this thread. Reading through the Roger Dodsworth edited "British Glass between the wars" on page 30 there's a paragraph about some of the 19th Century Stuart designs that were still being produced in the 1920s and 30s. This piece written by Christine Colledge state's " 'Leather' bottles identical to those made in 1881 were entered into the pattern book in 1929".
So if I'm reading this right Stuart who took over the Redhouse site in 1881 from Phillip Pargeter either continued Pargeter's production of these 'Leather' bottles or started their own production that year and then restarted production of them some time in the late 1920s. I suspect that at least some of the Whitefriars examples out there may be miss attributed.
It seems the Stuart version was around longer than I believed.
Cheers
Keith
Keith Mick:
Further update.
Spotted this in an old Army and Navy catalogue from 1907.
I believe the one on the left to be a W/F version, don't know who made the Leather bottle to the right.
Cheers
Keith
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