Topic: Uranium Glass Goblet

[NevB]

Another glass goblet, could date from any time between 1840-1900. The seller thought it was Bohemian as her family came from there but I can't find any evidence for that. From my previous post it could be Russian, French or other European, 5" tall in a pale yellow/lime green. I did find this similar 2578 pattern by St. Louis but will look further.

https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/portal/p890

[flying free]

at the front of the musterbuch I think it gives the sizes.  Have you checked if the size matches? (if it's there?? - can't really remember without checking)

It looks like a good match though the colour is similar to some of the Russian Fussbecher iirc so that's probably also worth looking into.
I had a brief search of Pressglas-Korrespondenz but couldn't see anything the same.  I'll try and have a search again later.

#edited to add - I checked front page and a 6. denotes for wine.  So it could be ok size wise.  Unfortunately I couldn't see measurements.

This plate appears to be a similar colour perhaps?
https://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2014-1w-jeschke-bacc-teller-schwaene-1840.pdf

Lovely find - very envious.
m

[NevB]

Thanks m, yes it is a nice piece. It's difficult to describe the colour as it has an almost permanent green glow, I spotted it indoors at a fair from about 20yds away  .

[thewingedsphinx]

Hi Nev, panel and oval patterns were made by early pressed glass manufacturers in England, America and in Europe, yours looks like a very good candidate for a Manchester maker Molineaux Webb, Percival Vickers or perhaps even early Sowerby? Have you done a density test as Neil maybe able to help with the results.
I have some mol web piano feet which are Vaseline but have a streak of green that can be seen in certain light.
Cheers Mike

[flying free]

Could you photograph it from a bit further away in profile so the actual shape and dimensions (height to width) and also the daylight colour can be seen against a white sheet please?  If you have time

Thank you so much

Mike do you have a catalogue/pattern reference for Molineux Webb and Percival Vickers versions you're thinking of please?  Thanks   It's always said that many manufacturers made similar patterns but the pattern books for Launay Hautin were particularly accurate depictions (and the Launay Hautin cost an absolute fortune to produce because of the way it was so beautifully made) so I'm always curious to see comparisons to other makers.

m

[NevB]

Yes Mike I'd seen the MW etc. patterns but because of my goblet's history, not always reliable I know, I think it's more likely European. MW catalogue shown here:
https://sites.google.com/site/molwebbhistory/the-history-of-molineaux-webb/registered-designs/molineaux-webb-unregistered-pressed-glass/molineaux-webb-catalogue-drinking-vessels

Here's another photo m.

[flying free]

There are two things I can see that might be slightly different -
1) the 'hip' of your tumbler for want of a better word, where your tumbler has a curved hip below the three horizontal line 'waist'.  The tumbler in the musterbuch doesn't appear to have curved 'hips'.  It appears to have flat geometric hips. Which look as though they were flat horizontal panel cut design around the 'hips'. The difference I can see, as it's difficult to describe, is if you look at the merese of goblet 2579 next to it where you can distinctly see in the pattern book it's curved.  Do you see what I mean?

2) The diameter of the foot is different.

Seeing it side on I don't think it's the same as the Launay Hautin version.  I also couldn't see it in the MW patterns you showed.
Might be worth searching for a Russian version just in case perhaps?

I'm very envious of this find!

[neilh]

I can't match this to existing catalogue images though Molineaux Webb made this sort of thing. I would therefore expect Rice Harris of Birmingham to have made patterns like this as well. If it's by them a density reading of around 2.9g/cc would be suggestive.

[NevB]

Yes m it does appear to be a faceted hexagon rather than rounded but maybe there were variations. Neil, I make the density only 2.4g/cc.

[flying free]

I can't match this to existing catalogue images though Molineaux Webb made this sort of thing. I would therefore expect Rice Harris of Birmingham to have made patterns like this as well. If it's by them a density reading of around 2.9g/cc would be suggestive.

Neil do we know what the density reading of a St Louis or Baccarat piece would be from the Launay Hautin catalogue as a comparison?  (not that I'd know how to take a density reading, however I always think it's important to know what we're comparing against if it's being used as a deciding factor)
m