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Author Topic: Another newly acquired mystery: 2-tone, Acid-cut, Aesthetic style glass vase  (Read 280 times)

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Offline ian the sculptor

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This small, footed vase measures 11 cms tall x 7.5 at top and base. Lead crystal, polished pontil, acid cut raised decoration of fruiting branches and butterflies.
2-tone colour - green  fading down to clear. It's not uranium glass. I wondered about Moser, but couldn't find anything similar anywhere.
Does anyone have any thoughts on maker?

Thanks
Ian

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is there a polished pontil mark on the base?

The colour and effect reminds me of Cristallerie Saint-Louis. (possibly also Val St. Lambert maybe but I'd be searching Saint-Louis if it were mine).

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I've come across this vase on Saleroom, sold at Fieldings and attributed to Stevens and Williams. Ignoring the attribution for the moment, the design matches my vase: the textured branches, the leaves and even the butterfly appears to be the same.
So I wondered if anyone has any thoughts on the Fieldings vase and whether this might bring us closer to an identification of both?

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/fieldings-auctioneers-ltd/catalogue-id-srfi10189/lot-71468263-7951-4705-985b-b18600abbb1b

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This satin airtrap vase has remarkably the same decor on it as well I think?

https://www.tooveys.com/lots/548467/a-stevens-and-williams-satin-glass-diamond-air-trap-cameo-vase

Interesting.  They say about the maker that it's by Stevens and Williams and then saying 'probably finished by Thomas Webb'.  ::)

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Yes, same pattern, tree branches and butterfly.  Intriguing. So perhaps I should be looking closer to home. 🤔

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It might be worth searching to see if S&W used that colour on their Triple overlay cameo wine glasses. 

The design looks as though it's acid etched as in the work done for Baccarat and Saint Louis.  However, they usually have an intricate background pattern.
Does it look as though yours had applied gilding on the raised veins of the leaves, i.e. not all over but in parts?

Is there a polished pontil mark on the base of the applied foot?

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Yes, a nicely polished pontil (I think I mentioned that in the post) in a slightly concave foot .   I did wonder if there might have been gilding but if there was, there's no traces of it now.

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oops sorry, missed that about the pontil mark.  From your description it doesn't sound as though it's a large polished pontil mark?  I know it's hard to tell/describe but French glass often has a very large polished out pontil mark and S&W often does hence me asking.

For comparison this is what I meant by the French acid etched patterns often having a patterned background:
https://mikeweedonantiques.com/4061-large_default/antique-baccarat-acid-etched-glass-biscuit-.jpg

https://mikeweedonantiques.com/en/glass/565-antique-baccarat-acid-etched-glass-biscuit-.html

I think yours and those vases are made using this technique but obviously not with a patterned background.

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Yes, acid etched (I think I said acid cut, but we are talking about the same finish). The pontil is 2.5 cms. That's similar to Webbs and Powell pieces I have here. Interestingly, I was searching Thomas Webb and came up with this:
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/halls-fine-art-auctioneers/catalogue-id-srhal10230/lot-b6810a5b-d03e-426f-9b09-aa7d01181f4a
That "Dresser" jug is the same colour fading to clear as my vase.
The auction doesn't directly attribute the jug to Webb (though that first mention may be inclusive?). And it's not been proved yet but it seems accepted now that Thomas Webb used Christopher Dresser designs, and although threading is often attributed to S&W as a default they weren't alone in doing it. It also features in Webb's design books.

Not sure who H&H used for glass (or the other way round) but I think it's obvious the glass for that jug is English.

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All of this is attributions. None of it is identified.

Hukin and Heath may have used glass from anywhere on which to apply silver plated/silver parts.

I don't think any of this can be used to identify the maker of your small footed glass.

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