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Offline macdee

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« on: December 04, 2006, 02:14:51 PM »
Just after the war, a sale of goods was held in Drummond Castle, near Creiff.
This item was purchased from the sale. I've been told it's a wager cup, which was used in marriage ceremonies. There should be a small cup inbetween the ladies arms, which was missing at the time of sale.

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/5772/phto0010jy8.jpg
mod: image rather large, so converted to a link

Sorry about the poor quality of picture. I need to invest in a better camera.
I believe it to be 18th century, but have no idea really.
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2006, 02:58:49 PM »
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I believe it to be 18th century ...
Assuning you mean the cup and not your camera ( :D ), I would think, based on the colour of the glass, the colour and style of enameling and the wide gilded rim, 19th century is more likely, and later 19th rather than earlier.

But ...??
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2006, 03:40:10 PM »
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I believe it to be 18th century ...
Assuning you mean the cup and not your camera ( :D ),


I WAS talking about the camera, Kev. ROFL. :lol:

19th century ........ interesting. Thanks. :wink:
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2006, 04:00:15 PM »
maybe this helps

http://www.silvercollection.it/pagina11.html

end of the 19th ct. seems to fit, and Germany (this glass variant is definitely not Dutch) as the country of origin - which seems to fit stylistically.

 Not sure if the item can be attributed @ all - but possible makers include Heckert in Silesia and Rheinische in Ehrenfeld, both known for producing retro enameled work.

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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2006, 11:38:41 PM »
Thanks for the information Ivo. The facts all seem to point to it being Germanic.

Knowing that it came from Drummond Castle, I'm imagining the Laird and a few of his friend sitting round a table placing bets in it. :)

What fun! :D
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2006, 11:08:50 AM »
Here's mine.  http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/wager_cup.jpg
I think she's brass, with copper surface decoration.  I was told that there was a fashion for these copies around the turn of the 19th / 20th century, which I assume is the date of mine.

It's great to see a glass version!   :shock:  :D
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