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Glass / Re: Art Deco green vase red 'flame' splotches - Schneider
« Last post by flying free on June 29, 2025, 05:57:05 PM »This is the link to the one I meant to paste - blue with red and the beehive foot - curious design and not in WMF book:
https://www.carters.com.au/index.cfm/item/1410987-wmf-ikora-blue-and-red-bubble-glass-vase-circa-1930-20-cm-high/
Mine has similar bubbles to the ebay one and the striped effect. I wonder how they achieved that? Some form of picking colour up on a ribbed mold? or blowing into a ribbed mold and then casing perhaps?
I can't recall seeing any of the other pieces in the Zelasko book except for one maybe, the white one with browny splotches on the left of the picture. I think I've seen that somewhere.
OOH look here - a good photograph of pieces from the Vineta-Kristall range from Josephinenhutte from the George Eastman Museum:
https://collections.eastman.org/objects/26986/arrangement-of-vineta-kristall-josephinenhutte-ag-in-seles;jsessionid=BD57D9CA1EC595889D03DE3C1AFB31CE?ctx=45d0c406-f2bf-4c0c-bd6a-0d8d66506713&idx=22
What is amazing is that the photograph is dated c. 1925.
Source: Photograph taken of a collection of Vineta-Kristall Josephinenhutte by Dr Arthur Traube.
Some information about Dr Arthur Traube here - b. Berlin March 8th 1878. Died 1948:
https://www.nytimes.com/1948/07/17/archives/dr-arthur-traube-i.html
Now you can see that the dekor on mine is the same green colour and dekor as the vase at the back and the bowl at the front
I'm so excited to finally have an identification!
Of interest re comparing competitors - The history of WMF is here: Shows glass making starting 1883-
https://aboutwmf.com/en/history/
I think the Ikora range was launched in the 1920s - there are catalogue photographs in the book from 1928.
btw I have come across another piece purporting to be from the Vineta-Kristall range. The dekor is nothing like my vase as far as I can see.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ekMAAOSw99Zm~pvm/s-l1600.webp
My vase, and I think all the other pieces, has a pontil mark and a firepolished rim.
However there is some information on this piece? I think? here:
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/81417-unsung-heroes-of-glass-2-erwin-pfohl
I am certain though that my vase is exactly the same as, and from the range photographed by Dr Arthur Traube as shown in my link above from the George Eastman Museum.
Curious then - the piece referred to in the ebay listing was translated as
'A specimen is also located in the Passau Glass Museum in Germany. This is the only example of this series we have ever seen outside of a museum.'
Is it possible the one in the Passau is not from the Vineta-Kristall Josephinehutte range? I'm absolutely certain mine is and likewise the green one on ebay.
m
https://www.carters.com.au/index.cfm/item/1410987-wmf-ikora-blue-and-red-bubble-glass-vase-circa-1930-20-cm-high/
Mine has similar bubbles to the ebay one and the striped effect. I wonder how they achieved that? Some form of picking colour up on a ribbed mold? or blowing into a ribbed mold and then casing perhaps?
I can't recall seeing any of the other pieces in the Zelasko book except for one maybe, the white one with browny splotches on the left of the picture. I think I've seen that somewhere.
OOH look here - a good photograph of pieces from the Vineta-Kristall range from Josephinenhutte from the George Eastman Museum:
https://collections.eastman.org/objects/26986/arrangement-of-vineta-kristall-josephinenhutte-ag-in-seles;jsessionid=BD57D9CA1EC595889D03DE3C1AFB31CE?ctx=45d0c406-f2bf-4c0c-bd6a-0d8d66506713&idx=22
What is amazing is that the photograph is dated c. 1925.
Source: Photograph taken of a collection of Vineta-Kristall Josephinenhutte by Dr Arthur Traube.
Some information about Dr Arthur Traube here - b. Berlin March 8th 1878. Died 1948:
https://www.nytimes.com/1948/07/17/archives/dr-arthur-traube-i.html
Now you can see that the dekor on mine is the same green colour and dekor as the vase at the back and the bowl at the front


Of interest re comparing competitors - The history of WMF is here: Shows glass making starting 1883-
https://aboutwmf.com/en/history/
I think the Ikora range was launched in the 1920s - there are catalogue photographs in the book from 1928.
btw I have come across another piece purporting to be from the Vineta-Kristall range. The dekor is nothing like my vase as far as I can see.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ekMAAOSw99Zm~pvm/s-l1600.webp
My vase, and I think all the other pieces, has a pontil mark and a firepolished rim.
However there is some information on this piece? I think? here:
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/81417-unsung-heroes-of-glass-2-erwin-pfohl
I am certain though that my vase is exactly the same as, and from the range photographed by Dr Arthur Traube as shown in my link above from the George Eastman Museum.
Curious then - the piece referred to in the ebay listing was translated as
'A specimen is also located in the Passau Glass Museum in Germany. This is the only example of this series we have ever seen outside of a museum.'
Is it possible the one in the Passau is not from the Vineta-Kristall Josephinehutte range? I'm absolutely certain mine is and likewise the green one on ebay.
m