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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Pinkspoons on October 25, 2005, 12:30:43 PM
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I bought these a while ago, and they've been quietly sat on my shelf - was just wondering if anyone recognised them?
The blue, lilac and smoked vases are 15cm tall, the green bulbous one is 10.5cm and the very peculiar amber one covered in a strange honeycomb of indents is approx 12.5cm.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/vases1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/vases2.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/vases3.jpg
The lilac one has a very nice 'ring' to it
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Tossing in a complete guess without knowing until vidfletch comes along, but does the first green one have the look of caithness about it?
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Hang on, I've seen that cushion-button effect (on the gold vase) before, except it was on a blue vase, cylindrical and labelled "Hand Made in Western Germany". Give me a few days and I'll see whether I can find it for comparison.
Cathy B.
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The green one doesn't really feel like the rest of my Caithness - it's a little bit sharper round the rim.
And West Germany - that's interesting. I've never seen one before, or anything even vaguely like it, so I couldn't even hazard a guess as to where I thought it might be from!
And I forgot a bowl too - it looks Czech to my untrained eye... can anyone naysay or confirm this?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/czechbowl1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/czechbowl2.jpg
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Number 1 has to be Ikea or similar large scale distributor.
Number 2 looks German to me, it has this typical "rauchtopaz" colour which was used by Joska and other Zwiesel makers (but also by Maastricht).
Number 3: the model is very Riihimäki, but I've not seen Neodym glass from them - so I would sooner look in the direction of France.
Number 4: I believe this is Maastricht - I have a similar one with the sticker, but it would not surprise me if simple cylinders in light teal or sea green were made elsewhere too.
Number 5:
(http://tinypic.com/f026g1.jpg)
Here is a little brother of the dimple vase, very lightweight glass. I was expecting Germany or Italy for this one, the purple one next to it is equally lightweight and seems to be Elme, I was told. Why Italy? Because of the similarities to lightweight bottles made for Grappa bottelers. Very curious to see what Cathy comes up with.
Number 6 - the bowl: my first hunch is Belgium.
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Gosh, thanks for all that. It has all been duly noted down - otherwise I will end up forgetting! :D
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Ivo - your purple one is by Elme and I believe designed by Gunnar Ander c.1950s. I have have three of these in cased cobalt blue. ( I have also seen a third colour - I think it was a mustard like colour if I remember correctly). Two have their original labels on. One has the Importer George Hardy Swedish Art Glass label plus a smaller one on the base which just says "MADE IN SWEDEN". This latter label is on the base of a second one also.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/view5.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/mushrooms019.jpg
I really do like these :lol:
Mod: Important Note. As at 19 May 2020, a thread by Wayne (https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,69609.msg387923.html#msg387923) advises that George Hardy was not the importer of various glass items as has been stated in threads within the GMB. The correct importer name is Hans Geismar.
Regards - Anne E.B. :wink:
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your purple one is by Elme <snip> I really do like these
Thank YOU! Great to have a hunch confirmed. I immediately punched the info into my latest gadget - a Brother P-touch label maker which prints neat little labels you can stick underneath & you can finally rid yourself of the post-it notes inside vases that will not come out when you want them to . :oops:
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your purple one is by Elme <snip> I really do like these
Thank YOU! Great to have a hunch confirmed. I immediately punched the info into my latest gadget - a Brother P-touch label maker which prints neat little labels you can stick underneath & you can finally rid yourself of the post-it notes inside vases that will not come out when you want them to . :oops:
:lol: :lol: :lol: I spent half an hour yesterday trying to get a rolled up piece of paper out of a Whitefriars piece - to no avail. It had mysteriously travelled down to the bottom :roll: Tried chopsticks, knitting needle, meat skewer, even resorting to levitation, and in the end poured water in and left it to go soggy. It eventually came out BUT the water had made the felt tip pen run, and the paper became papier mache, so couldn't read the details including pattern number!
I'm gonna get me a Brother P-touch label maker! :lol:
Regards - Anne E.B. :oops:
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Oh yes a Brother P touch lable maker. I have used one for a number of years and the one thing to remember, its almost permanent. I used mine to actually lable things for sale and they looked so nice, but boy did I have a dickens of a time trying to remove them later on. I don't know what my customers thought and then it got too expensive anyway and time consuming. So use them knowing the info will be there. Terry
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I've had a thing stuck in this vase for about 3 years now. I still don't know what it is.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture%20731.jpg
I gave up after a while and just shoved it in the bottom draw. It could be a £20 pound note. :(
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My glass collection is quite small still, so I can just keep a detailed database on my computer of what everything is - along with what I paid for it in case I ever want to sell it, and what it sold for in case I stumble across another at a bargain price. :)
It's less messy than stickers. :P
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:D:D:D
I've got a red one like the purple one! Also a few other bottles that are approximately this shape, (which reminds me of volumetric flasks I used to use in the lab, I always liked them). Some have indents, some are just round at the bottom. I will have to get myself organised with the camera again soon, and post some pictures.
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I've had a thing stuck in this vase for about 3 years now. I still don't know what it is.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture%20731.jpg
I gave up after a while and just shoved it in the bottom draw. It could be a £20 pound note. :(
a Gullaskruf invoice?
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My glass collection is quite small still, so I can just keep a detailed database on my computer of what everything is - along with what I paid for it in case I ever want to sell it, and what it sold for in case I stumble across another at a bargain price. :) It's less messy than stickers. :P
That's why I use my Gallery http://www.yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/ on Yobunny. It gives me a photographic record I can add to and update very easily... and no annoying labels or rolled bits of paper to deal with! :lol:
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I've had a thing stuck in this vase for about 3 years now. I still don't know what it is.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture%20731.jpg
I gave up after a while and just shoved it in the bottom draw. It could be a £20 pound note. :(
a Gullaskruf invoice?
Hopefully signed Arthur Percy :lol:
Anne E.B. :wink:
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More likely that it was used as a spitoon. It wasn't me though, I never spit at glass. I'm too much of a gentleman for that. :)
Bpt... ting (sound effect).
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More likely that it was used as a spitoon. It wasn't me though, I never spit at glass. I'm too much of a gentleman for that. :)
Bpt... ting (sound effect).
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I wonder if it has been used to hold flowers Tigerchips? It might be foliage. It's difficult to get clean if its been there for years. Try soaking overnight in biological washing liquid - it might help :P
Regards - Anne E.B. :wink:
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Anne, I've just done what you said. It is frothy at the top so now my vase looks like it's got Rabies. :shock:
I would never put flowers in there because I save all my flowers for the ladies. :roll:
Pinkspoons amber vase is different. I have seen a Murano "VeArt" vase the same colour and with one of them thing's going inwards on it. I'm not sure if they signed all their glass.
I know nothing about the company so I'm probably making a fool of myself again. :roll:
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It's an incredibly thin glass the vase is made out of - I had to double-check that it wasn't plastic when I bought it. No signatures on its bum either. :(
The dimples are about 12mm deep and were made with a hexagonal-shaped tool.
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Here is a little brother of the dimple vase, very lightweight glass. I was expecting Germany or Italy for this one, the purple one next to it is equally lightweight and seems to be Elme, I was told. Why Italy? Because of the similarities to lightweight bottles made for Grappa bottelers. Very curious to see what Cathy comes up with.
Hi Ivo - you will have to be patient. We're renovating, moving and I have 50% worth of assessment due in the next week, so things are going slowly! What resembles it is the dimples with the characteristic round pattern at the base, a bit like a button on a leather chesterfield, if that makes sense! The blue vase in question is buried deep in our garage in a box somewhere, but I do promise to dig it out and a make a photo of it and label copyleft.
Kind r's
Cathy
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:D :D :D
Remember how I promised a picture of the dimple vase I had hiding in the garage somewhere? Finally found it!! The label doesn't in fact say "handmade in Western Germany" and "foreign" - that was an orange pottery urn in the same box :oops: :oops:
What is does say is "mundgeblasen, handgeformt", which means "mouth blown, hand made". Which could of course be just be a label for the German market.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5986
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5985
(label is copyleft, should anyone want it)
Note the circles at the base of the dimple effect, which gives the resemblance to Nic's vase.
Anyway, so Ivo do you think this could be Elme?
Changing the topic just slightly, when would there have been a place defined as Western Germany as opposed to West Germany? Immediately after the war, or before then?
Cheers
Cathy
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Definitely German (west or western makes no difference).
I think I may have uneartehd a long standing mystery last week when I found a moss green brandy glass in ultrathin sodaglass - same type as discussed here - with an IG/ Ingridsticker on it, the florist supplier from Germany.
Question is, of course, where did THEY have it made - but there is undenyably some progress.
So your blue vase is most likely German, and quite possibly from Ingridglas.
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a moss green brandy glass in ultrathin sodaglass.
Ivo, is the very thin soda glass characteristic of Germany? I ask because my mother has a smallish jug/vase (about 4-5 inches tall), which is this colour and so very thin that I'm always scared to touch it. It has a label for (from memory) east Germany (DDR).
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Quite possible, the Lausitz area (is eastern Germany, south of Dresden) is and was full of glass makers - though nothing immediately jumps out of the Lausitz glass book to shout "yoohoo! - Me!, Me!".
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Thanks Ivo, I'll take the camera and get a photo of it next time I'm over hers.
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I've had a thing stuck in this vase for about 3 years now. I still don't know what it is.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture%20731.jpg
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Hi Tigerchips,
Just wondered if you'd managed to identify the vase before it went in the drawer? I think my ruby one looks a lot like your amethyst one. Is it about 10" tall?
Thanks
Cat
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I've had a thing stuck in this vase for about 3 years now. I still don't know what it is.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture%20731.jpg
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Hi Tigerchips,
Just wondered if you'd managed to identify the vase before it went in the drawer? I think my ruby one looks a lot like your amethyst one. Is it about 10" tall?
Thanks
Cat
Hi Cat - Apparently Gullaskruf, Aseda, Elme, and Lindeshammer all made similar vases, but if you post a picture of yours maybe someone (possibly Ivo) can ID it for you.
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The vase was thrown out long ago. :shock: The finish on the top was bad, it wasn't even straight and on the rim the white casing had holes in it.
It was around 13 inches high and I never did get that thing out of it. :lol:
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My glass collection is quite small still, so I can just keep a detailed database on my computer of what everything is - along with what I paid for it in case I ever want to sell it, and what it sold for in case I stumble across another at a bargain price. :)
It's less messy than stickers. :P
Incidentally, this system is still working for me with exactly 500 items in my database - predominantly Holmegaard, unsurprisingly enough! ;D
But the point in this post is...
Remember how I promised a picture of the dimple vase I had hiding in the garage somewhere? Finally found it!! The label doesn't in fact say "handmade in Western Germany" and "foreign" - that was an orange pottery urn in the same box :oops: :oops:
What is does say is "mundgeblasen, handgeformt", which means "mouth blown, hand made". Which could of course be just be a label for the German market.
Just spotted one identical to mine in form, bearing the same label as yours on eBay.de...
AUCTION (http://cgi.ebay.de/Wagenfeld-Kuriosum-Vase-mit-Innennoppen_W0QQitemZ270087705062QQihZ017QQcategoryZ138787QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
My, this is a lengthy ongoing mystery... ;D
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...I love a good mystery. ;D
Does this bowl have white rim Nic?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/czechbowl1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/czechbowl2.jpg
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It does indeed!
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I have seen about 6 of these style items passing me by so far. All in different shapes though, usually tall vases. They all have the white rim and the purple inside the glass, but I have seen some with a lime green colour inside the glass too. A flat base is also present on all and they are always extremely heavy.
The purple colour on yours doesn't seem to fade to clear so perhaps a different maker. :-\
http://www.mblaisgallery.com/dynamic/Artwork/PublicDisplay_12_75_568.asp
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And I forgot a bowl too - it looks Czech to my untrained eye... can anyone naysay or confirm this?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/czechbowl1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/pinkspoons/czechbowl2.jpg
Ah, spotted one of these recently with a Bohemia label. Didn't take too long to solve that one, only three years. ;D
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Hi Nic.
The 5th item looks like the one i have which Marcus told me look at, Czech Chribska (Bohemian
hope this as helped. mine is green and pink with clear glass very nice bowls i think.
Steve
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Thanks for that, Steve. Very helpful. The shape's exactly the same. :)