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Title: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: jeanne on September 26, 2011, 02:20:43 PM
Another item from the IOW hospice. Will soon be on Ebay. It is rather handsome and the treatment of the glass gives the whole piece a much lighter effect, as on can see light between the 'feathers'. The black, grey parts are as if smudged with charcoal.
Weighs 1.2 k
!4 cms high and long, 17 wide.

Any help with origin would be appreciated.
Thankyou
Jeanne
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: Frank on September 26, 2011, 03:20:21 PM
Decoration effect is excellent and reminds me of Marcolin... but not certain on that. But that green background makes the bird look distinctly unwell and left me a little queasy too  :-X
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 26, 2011, 03:42:14 PM
I thought Marcolin too, but it's not really my sort of area.

Ginger is very good for nausea, Frank. :thup:
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: johnphilip on September 26, 2011, 03:49:23 PM
Yeah i know ginger she used to make me sick as well . ;D ;) Nice bird tho , NO NOT GINGER THE B SEAGULL . :chky: :hi: SSHHH
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: jeanne on September 26, 2011, 05:48:08 PM
Sorry if the green made you feel unwell, It was the only colour I had to hand to cover the white background on the photo table that we use for ebay pics.
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 26, 2011, 06:01:41 PM
 :24: I think Frank was pulling your leg a little bit, Jeanne, don't worry. You needed to cover the white background to bring the bird up. :thup:
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: jeanne on September 26, 2011, 09:08:09 PM
Indeed I think you are right but it all adds a little bit to the conversation!
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: ahremck on September 27, 2011, 11:54:14 AM
First off Jeanne I really like the bird and would have been very happy to find it.  :thup:

All three of my Marcolin/Ronneby pieces have a polished base.  The "feathers" look very like my Ronneby Goose "feathers" though.  I believe there was some discussion re Nason birds.

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,39688.msg219779.html#msg219779
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,37866.0.html       worth reading Inca & TxSilver's remarks

should get you thinking in slightly different directions.  That ground but not polished base does not look like Ronneby/Marcolin to me but may be from Murano.

Ross
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: rosieposie on September 27, 2011, 12:36:13 PM
Hi Jeanne,  :hi: Have got to step in here now, as I am both a bird collector and collect birds and animals with this 'feathered' effect in the glass.
Firstly, is Ross correct that the base is unpolished. or is it just the angle the picture is taken?
Secondly, we need Ingela here,  could a mod add something to the title to attrect her attention please?

Or, Jeanette, you might like to email her to ask if she would take a peek at this thread....give her the url link to save her time.

In the absence of any engraved markings to the base, I would go with either Marcolin or V. Nason, it is a beautiful quality piece.

I like it.  :sun:
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: inca on September 27, 2011, 05:18:38 PM
The base looks polished to me.

This is FM/Marcolin. We have had this on the Swedish forum:
http://precisensan.com/antikforum/showthread.php?87-FM-Konstglas-Ronneby&p=67759&viewfull=1#post67759

here is another model taken from a catalogue
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: rosieposie on September 27, 2011, 07:45:55 PM
Oh Ingela, every time I see that Swedish Forum, I drool!!

I am so pleased this is Marcolin,  when the thread first started, I wanted to jump in with both feet, screaming Marcolin, but restrained myself to see what others had to sayI  It is lovely Jeanette,  what a great piece, please let us all know when you list it for sale.....PLEASE.

Ingela,  just a quickie,  where can I get one of those amazing giraffes???
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: ahremck on September 27, 2011, 10:43:37 PM
 :hiclp: :hiclp: :hiclp:  Very pleasing for you Jeanne.  All of the Marcolin I have seen so far has been marked and the base fooled me.  A lovely item.  Great to have people from the right part of the world to help us attribute such beautiful things correctly.

Ross
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: Max on September 28, 2011, 06:57:05 AM
Ingela, I hate to be a bore when it's such a great addition to this thread, but do you have permissions to use that catalogue photo on this forum?  If it's under copyright then the GMB is open to legal problems.   :cry:

Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: inca on September 28, 2011, 08:36:38 PM
There is no mention of copyright in the catalogue.
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: jeanne on September 28, 2011, 08:56:20 PM
Hello all
I have been away sailing for a couple of days so have missed all your kind and much appreciated interest. The object is at our store at the moment. I will see it tomorrow, take the camera and really inspect it all over to see if there are any markings, I have to say that I did not look too closely when I posted. Will come back tomorrow evening with more.
Jeanne
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: rosieposie on September 28, 2011, 09:03:20 PM
Hi Jeanne,   :hi: Could you also check if the base is polished as well please?
I quite often identify glass birds and animals on eBay for your Hospice Shop, so it has been lovely meeting you here for a change!!
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: inca on September 28, 2011, 11:55:42 PM
 
I have marked the base, and it looks polished

Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: jeanne on September 30, 2011, 02:24:22 PM
Here are another couple of pics of the base. There is definitely no signature. It is difficult to photograph as the white glass 'feathers'  are encased in quite a wide layer of clear glass. Most pictures looked as though the base was just the circle formed by the white glass. It is much larger and very polished. have tweaked the colour of one pic to try and emphasise the larger area. Could you help me with the name of the maker for listing ? There seems to be so many variations .
Best Regards
Jeanne
PS

Rosie Posie Do you have the right Hospice or have I misunderstood your post? I could well be very muddled. Jeanne
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: rosieposie on September 30, 2011, 02:49:22 PM
I've pm'd you Jeanne, and the very best of luck selling this beautiful bird, I may well be one of the bidders!!  :X:
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: inca on September 30, 2011, 04:24:30 PM
Here are another couple of pics of the base. There is definitely no signature. It is difficult to photograph as the white glass 'feathers'  are encased in quite a wide layer of clear glass. Most pictures looked as though the base was just the circle formed by the white glass. It is much larger and very polished. have tweaked the colour of one pic to try and emphasise the larger area.

I was trying to show the size of the base in reply #16.


Could you help me with the name of the maker for listing ? There seems to be so many variations .

The maker is Marcolin.

Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: flying free on September 30, 2011, 04:33:56 PM
Inca, thanks for pointing that out  :) I've been following the post but I hadn't realised how large the base was until you just said what you'd circled.  Photos can be so deceptive if you aren't really sure what you are looking at as it were.
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Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: inca on September 30, 2011, 06:07:46 PM
Could you help me with the name of the maker for listing ? There seems to be so many variations .

For search purpose on eBay, you can list it as: FM Ronneby Marcolin
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: jeanne on September 30, 2011, 06:39:52 PM
Well there we are, all settled. Thank you all for your help. I shall post on ebay later this evening and will leave a link here. It is heavy unfortunately for selling in this way as we only send by some form of signed for mail and it will have to be double boxed. Still we shall see. Thanks again for your help, I'm learning all the time
Jeanne
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: jeanne on September 30, 2011, 09:53:49 PM
Hi all

Have placed a link to the ebay site in the marketplace.
Regards
Jeanne
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: rosieposie on September 30, 2011, 10:08:57 PM
 :thup: Best of luck selling Jeanne!  :X:
Title: Re: Large seagull with feather effect. Any ideas as to origin?
Post by: jeanne on October 08, 2011, 02:39:50 PM
He sold and is off to New Zealand.
Thanks
all
Jeanne