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Title: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: tonyatl on December 15, 2020, 05:06:33 PM
Can anyone suggest a maker of this vase? it is cased glass acid etched. an online appraiser could only say that it might be mid century possibly Tiffin. I found some similar by michael weems but his is not mid century though the appraiser could be very wrong as is often the case  ::). 16" h.
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 16, 2020, 04:32:01 PM
Are the edges of the etching quite sharp?
It has a bit of look of some Portmeirion that was produced for a short while, I have a "monowave" bucket, and found a single image of the "swirling leaves" pattern on the web.
I don't know if "swirling leaves" was made in pink, or in this shape, but it does look a bit like it.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/portmeirion-art-glass-vase-swirling-465857156
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: Ekimp on December 16, 2020, 04:59:19 PM
I’ve just seen something with a similar sort of pattern and look to the surface (going by your smallish photo) that looked as though it was one of those more modern vases where the frosting can be scraped off - something applied rather than etched. Not that yours is one of those, but are you positive it’s acid etched?
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 16, 2020, 05:13:46 PM
Managed to find pics of my Monowave bucket.
It is quite a big thing - I use it as the bathroom wastepaper basket.  :)
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: Ekimp on December 16, 2020, 06:03:36 PM
I was referring to the tonyati’s vase re frosting rather than Sue’s if it might’ve read that way. I took your advice some time ago Sue, of using large vases for waste bins...I have three now but the main disadvantage is I can see the content!
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 16, 2020, 06:27:49 PM
As you can see, this one is nicely opaque.  :)
I do put a paper bag inside it, to keep the rubbish from contacting the inner walls.

The depth of the etching and its sharp edges do not show up in my pics sadly, but it was the first thing I thought of when I saw the pic of the pink vase. The similarity of the very deep, but not well-finished and sharp edges of the etching. The surface of the black lines is smooth and shiney, but the "inner walls" of the etched away parts are rough to the touch, as is the white background.
The rim is polished.
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: tonyatl on December 16, 2020, 11:35:20 PM
Are the edges of the etching quite sharp?
It has a bit of look of some Portmeirion that was produced for a short while, I have a "monowave" bucket, and found a single image of the "swirling leaves" pattern on the web.
I don't know if "swirling leaves" was made in pink, or in this shape, but it does look a bit like it.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/portmeirion-art-glass-vase-swirling-465857156

the edges of the swirls are crisp but would hesitate to call them sharp. thank you for the lead.
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: tonyatl on December 16, 2020, 11:40:41 PM
I’ve just seen something with a similar sort of pattern and look to the surface (going by your smallish photo) that looked as though it was one of those more modern vases where the frosting can be scraped off - something applied rather than etched. Not that yours is one of those, but are you positive it’s acid etched?

it may well be modern as i indicated in the opening post. the raised decoration would be etched. as such i would assume that the frosting is a by-product of the acid etching, but would not swear to it. i have posted another smallish photo for a closeup
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: Ekimp on December 16, 2020, 11:54:21 PM
Thanks for the extra photo. Forget what I said :) looks acid etched to me with a definite edge between the two surfaces finishes.
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: tonyatl on December 17, 2020, 12:04:38 AM
i am starting to lean heavily in the direction of michael weems. i found this example on rubylane.com. i am sure that it will disappear soon, but for now, it can be viewed here: https://www.rubylane.com/item/1667971-PP217/Pink-Elise-Vase-Michael-Weems-Glass?search=1&t=aee64ed2

this weems vase has a decorative pattern evocative of my vase - though clearly different. its base is comparable to mine. even the shape is somewhat suggestive.
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: tonyatl on December 17, 2020, 12:10:09 AM
i am starting to lean heavily in the direction of michael weems. i found this example on rubylane.com. i am sure that it will disappear soon, but for now, it can be viewed here: https://www.rubylane.com/item/1667971-PP217/Pink-Elise-Vase-Michael-Weems-Glass?search=1&t=aee64ed2

this weems vase has a decorative pattern evocative of my vase - though clearly different. its base is comparable to mine. even the shape is somewhat suggestive.

on the other hand, here is another vase, but done by consolidated which is in the ball park sort of, though not cased. https://www.rubylane.com/item/361097-021217x2e017/Consolidated-Green-Florentine-Etched-7x22-Vase?search=1&t=4f391cdd

the one thing in favor of this maker is that it aligns with the mid century attribution given by my appraiser. nothing is settled, but gives food for thought.
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 17, 2020, 01:16:34 PM
 :)
I can see now that on your pink vase, the surface which stands proud is the satinated part, and the shiney smooth pattern is the one which lies deep.
It is completely the other way around in my Portmeirion piece, I think we can rule that out.
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: Ekimp on December 17, 2020, 02:09:24 PM
the surface which stands proud is the satinated part, and the shiney smooth pattern is the one which lies deep.
Maybe some sort of optical illusion, but my eyes/brain see it the other way round  ;D
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 17, 2020, 05:11:15 PM
I'm quite willing to concede that my eyes and brain are not the most reliable of co-ordinators - or percievers.  ;D
Maybe it's like the necker cube - it just depends which way around you first make the perception.
I think we need to ask Tonyatl!
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: tonyatl on December 18, 2020, 01:33:19 AM
I'm quite willing to concede that my eyes and brain are not the most reliable of co-ordinators - or percievers.  ;D
Maybe it's like the necker cube - it just depends which way around you first make the perception.
I think we need to ask Tonyatl!

The elements in relief are clear/ translucent. The ground - ie the base or the recessed surface has the frosted pink finish. i need to take a better photo  :o in fact the pink shown in the first photo is a little more intense than is seen in ordinary light.
Title: Re: Cased Glass Acid Etched Vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 18, 2020, 04:03:44 PM
Thanks.  ;D
It is the same as my bucket, after all. The acid etched, rough parts are the deep bits. The smooth shiney parts, stand proud.
Which makes most sense. :)