Topic: Georgian glass

[Keith Mick]

Hi,
Found this a few weeks ago. Wondering if anyone has an opinion on the manufacture date? It looks like a rummer but is very thick in the bowl so I think it maybe a covered urn sadly deprived of it's lid! The square foot has had a life with enough chips for a fish supper! The lower bowl has slice cut panels and above is a cut pattern (wheat husk?). It's lead glass and still rings despite the thickness.
It's fairly small, only 10.8cm tall and 7.8cm across the bowl. At the bowl rim its 6mm or more thick, it varies a bit.
I have no doubt that its a real Georgian glass, the foot is a mass of wear and there are signs of age all over.
Any thoughts would be welcome,
Thanks,
Keith

[Ekimp]

Me again. I think it was part of a cruet set.

Only my thoughts based on the photographs (it’s always worth including a photograph of the underside of the foot), I would be cautious and go for worn late 19th century/early 20th.

The reason for this is the cutting around the top looks to be a technique called Intaglio that was supposedly invented by John Northwood around 1890, see https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,68028.msg380843.html#msg380843

Also, it is a shape that has been widely reproduced, have a look here: https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,27036.0.html

You are finding some interesting glass

[Keith Mick]

Hi,
Have uploaded a pic of the underside of the foot. I don't think this is a later repro, the foot were it comes into contact with the table is a mass of wear.
The glass has that old look not like the crystal clear of most late 19th early 20th Century. I know the cut pattern was used in the 18th Century and onwards I've found a couple of examples in my books. The foot although not a lemon squeezer was a common enough shape.
Hope the picture is clear. Good pictures can be difficult!
Thanks for the help,
Keith

[Ekimp]

There is a covered urn, plate 28b, in Phelps Warren Irish Glass that has some similar cutting and also looks like a similar pontil mark.

[Keith Mick]

Hi,
Don't think I have the Phelps Warren book, does he give a date? You gave me an idea though I have "Irish glass " by Mary Boydell a pamphlet which has pictures of glass with similar cut motifs. One is a jug and glass and it say it was a popular motif around 1800. Doesn't follow that its Irish but would be described as Anglo Irish perhaps.
Thanks, I checked other books but forgot about the Mary Boydell booklet!
Keith

[Ekimp]

The date of the urn in the book is c.1795. It has a bell shaped lid and more cutting around the rim. He says in the text that “…the sprig and oval engraved device is reminiscent of English work”.

[Keith Mick]

Hi,
1790 - 1810 seems about right maybe. I do think it should have a lid because of the bowl thickness.
Nice find even though it's had a hard life,
Keith