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Offline Ivo

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« on: November 17, 2005, 09:29:42 AM »
The season of throwing unidentified items your way continues with 9 ashtrays...

1 Czech design?
http://tinypic.com/fu3q7r.jpg
2 dichroic olive and aqua, pressed
http://tinypic.com/fu3q8h.jpg
3 iridised inside and out
http://tinypic.com/fu3qbm.jpg
4 steel blue crystal
http://tinypic.com/fu3qc9.jpg
5 brown and clear blown - Aseda?
http://tinypic.com/fu3qdd.jpg
6 wild triangle slag

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http://tinypic.com/fu3qle.jpg
7 flesh coloured slag
http://tinypic.com/fu3qir.jpg
8 French Uranium
http://tinypic.com/fu3qjq.jpg
9 Dom Perignon 1930s
http://tinypic.com/fu3qki.jpg

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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2005, 10:25:04 AM »
Re; The Dom Perignon ashtray, I found this:

http://erp.winecommune.com/lot.cfm/lotID/832292.html

Scroll down for photo.  Maybe American glass, or maybe exported there?    :)
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2005, 10:54:55 AM »
Great Max, that is the same ashtray and I see that 40 bucks for an ashtray was too much.
This one is almost certainly produced in France or in Bohemia with amazing die-work and a smooth polished bottom - very reminiscent of Ingrid glass. As you may know the Schlevogt family fled to France after the war with the dies where production was resumed at Romilly-sur-Andelle in Normandy - until 1972. They also ran a shop in the Rue du Paradis in Paris and were one of the largest importers of glass in France between 1950-1972 - I assume the Dom Perignon ashtray is one of the Romilly production.

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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2005, 11:23:01 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2005, 02:07:11 PM »
#1 I've seen similar design before but don't rem where. It doesn't immediately shout Czech but whats the base like ?

#2 Looks like a cigar ashtray. The olive / aqua combo makes me think Murano. I don't think you really mean dichroic, do you ? but I won't argue about it - life's too short.

#3 clueless

#4 Presumably this is not Leerdam bluey-smoke or smokey blue sooooo I dunno.....interesting shade .... French ?
 
#5 Dunno but I like it ....and yes a Scandi-ish amber

#6 I hate slag ...normally but I love this piece - Moretti ?

#7 eeeeeeeeek !!!

#8 ...Vereco ? or one of the many other French pressed makers we don't seem to know about ....yet ....(well i don't).
 I think I have one like this in clear. I'll keep an eye out for it.

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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2005, 06:18:21 PM »
Number 3 looks 1930's French to me.
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2005, 07:19:25 PM »
Hello,
#Number 6, the  "wild triangle slag" looks a good deal like a Houze Glass item or perhaps it's by Westite Glass. I have seen those ash trays in the shops here, many times over the years.

I have a site, which shows a few of their wares, but your piece is not included in what has been posted there so far. If you care to have a look;  click on the "Photos of Houze Items" and the "Photos of Westite Items" links.

http://www.mkl.com/akro/club/index.htm

Maybe the Glass Company names will help you in your search.

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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2005, 09:53:05 AM »
That is a fscinating website, lots of things I've never seen before. Anne, have you added it to the links collection?

The ashtray in "motor oil & yoghurt mix" may be from eastblock production. There is a large two=handled vase doing the rounds in precisely that colour which was allegedly produced in Yugoslavia, and which is often misattributed as Sowerby - but accurate reference is lacking. I can not even find a photograph of it.

Meanwhile, on the subject, here is a 4 1/4 " vase in grey and orange slag which had the specialists stumped. I cannot see it in the Houze or Westite collection - but maybe you can confirm the model? It is 10-sided.  The only other piece seen in this colour is from Germany (Lausitz), in the 1920s - but that one is blown, not pressed.

http://tinypic.com/fusy0p.jpg

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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2005, 10:18:59 AM »
Peter
#1 oval hollow smooth - no grinding involved, more Finnish than Czech (makes this sense?)
#2 I would call it Dichroic, too - because it is not obviously somerso and the colour changes with the light fall. The bottom is polished smooth with a hollowed out pontil - I can not see if it is polished out or if it is part of the mould
#3 I trust Paul and I bought it in France - the combination is quite convincing
#4 This is more the Holmegaard Aquablue, or one of the Moser colours. Not Leerdam, I am sure. It is well made and well finished - and still not exciting.
#5 right, Aseda then
#6 Italy is a big country and Moretti did jump to mind for this expressive "calcedony" piece - but we just may be looking at Croatian or Serbian glass (see above)
#7 no comment
#8 No Vereco I think, more like Opalex or VMC.
#9 Killer Queen!

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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2005, 10:45:03 PM »
Quote from: "Ivo"
That is a fscinating website, lots of things I've never seen before. Anne, have you added it to the links collection?


It sure is Ivo. :)

I have another huge batch of links to add to GlassLinks as well but I've not had the time yet. They probably won't get done until after the play now (which happens next weekend!).
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