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Offline ju1i3

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when do star cut bases date from?
« on: September 12, 2011, 07:56:53 PM »
I bought this piece on ebay recently. I don't have anything else with a star cut base. Is this design indicative of its date? It's 6 cm tall. (I think it's a leech pot although it was described as a "night light".)
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Re: when do star cut bases date from?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2011, 08:12:08 PM »
1800s /1900s/2000s certainly, earlier not sure...

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Re: when do star cut bases date from?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2011, 08:59:56 PM »
ta  :P
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Re: when do star cut bases date from?
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2011, 09:48:04 PM »
It says in the book by R. Wilkinson  .The heavy and sharply cut star of the 1780-1800 period, where the star goes right to the edge of a foot on such articles as jugs, vases, etc.
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Re: when do star cut bases date from?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2011, 10:53:30 PM »
Other sources, such as Haanstra, Glass fact file a-z, state that star-cuts crossing in the centre and reaching out to the edge of a piece probably indicate post 1830.

Although not relevant for this bowl, it's worth noting that some authorities suggest different dates for types of star-cut on the feet of drinking glasses as opposed to other wares. So it's wise to check the context of any generalised source material regarding star-cuts ... just in case. :)
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Re: when do star cut bases date from?
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2011, 07:21:42 PM »
certainly very difficult (with rare exceptions only) to find authenticated star cut bases prior to 1800 - then with the flood of cut glass during the Regency period etc. they're everywhere.   However, just wanted to say that I found the Wilkinson book a good read (if you're into older glass), and packed with more information on handles/feet/styles/glass making methods and cutting etc. than most similar sized volumes.   I'm not qualified to comment re dating of certain star bases, but the book isn't expensive, and although the pics. are a tad small, I would recommend to anyone wishing to delve back to the C18, C19 and early C20.     The full title is..........'The Hallmarks of Antique Glass'........Pub. by Richard Madley Ltd.   -   1968.
In the light of reference to 'Glass fact file a - z', would Ivo care to comment on this particular issue? :)

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Re: when do star cut bases date from?
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2011, 07:44:59 PM »
would Ivo care to comment on this particular issue? :)

it's a cupping jar.

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Re: when do star cut bases date from?
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2011, 09:19:25 PM »
don't know whether to think something was lost in translation (although I doubt it - Ivo speaks better English than many English people)  -  or maybe my request was inarticulate.         I think Ivo is jesting  -  so I will re-phrase my comment................."would Ivo care to comment on the matter of apparent contradiction of date of manufacture (as highlighted by Kevin)  -  "where the star goes right to the edge"  -  i.e. 1780 to 1800 (Wilkinson) or the suggested later period of post 1830 (Ivo) :)

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Re: when do star cut bases date from?
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2011, 11:21:06 PM »
My apologies to all readers, especially to Ivo.

What Ivo said in his book was,
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... and rays do not extend to the edge, a piece was probably made after c.1830.
My emphasis on the "do not" in that quote.
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Re: when do star cut bases date from?
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2011, 04:03:49 AM »
Thanks all for the info.

I think that rim would make for a difficult vacuum seal and it's not like any cupping glass I've seen. Ivo, do you have a reference for that?
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