Topic: Whitefriars? Bottle/Olive Green Lobed bowl

[Otis Orlando]

Hi,  I have recently acquired an unusual looking large green bowl.  I have been informed that it could be Whitefriars by James hogan and made around the 1940's.  Can anyone confirm this?  The approximate length is 27.5cm.  At the widest point 13.8cm.  The bowl is very heavy and weighs approximately 3.4kg.  There are numerous air pockets around the glass and clear signs of ware, were the base meets the table.  The pontil (concaved and polished) would suggest to me that it is Whitefriars, but I am know expert, so would rather leave it in the hands of specialist in this field.

[Greg.]

Looks good to me, I think these are pattern number 9250 and yours may be in the See Green colourway.

I believe they are a Hogan design from the 40s, although were a design that was produced for a few years thereafter. Very heavy pieces and somewhat unvalued at present.

[Otis Orlando]

Appreciated Greg! I have never seen this type of bowl before and yes, it is very heavy.  I have just managed to find one that is similar to this and was sold in auction at a low value in 1994.   Nevertheless, I have no intentions of selling it just yet, as it looks fab on display!  Do you know if they produced many and are they varied in colour?

[kane_u_pain]

Very nice. I like the Hogan pieces. Very hard to come by in Australia and I think they are definitely under valued.

[johnphilip]

Yes both James and Edmund Hogan designed for W/Fs they were our Patricks father and grandfather , those bowls became popular in Italy a few years ago and prices rocketed but alas rockets do come down again , i believe the above is sea green , i have them in most colours including flint yes underated and under valued .     They are mostly very heavy pieces so postage to OZ is why you dont see many .
 
For more info bring on Patrick .

[Greg.]

Otis, apart from your Sea Green one I believe they also came in Twilight, Sapphire, Amber and Flint. There may also be the odd other colour I'm not familiar with.

[johnphilip]

Also at least two sizes .

[Patrick]

Hi,
 A similar bowl without the indents in the top rim and also without the 'Lobed' effect to the base was designed by the glassblower Tom Hill. The pattern number of this bowl is 9125.
 A couple of years later James Hogan elaborated the design by adding the Lobed base and the four indents to the top. There were two sizes 8" and 11" and colours as previously stated but maybe there is an Emerald version out there somewhere !
 They appear to have been very popular and made in large quantities.............
Below is an image ( courtesy of the Museum of London ) that shows Frank Hill applying the indents to the rim of the bowl with a wooden paddle.
 All best wishes,
                         Patrick.

[Otis Orlando]

Hi all,   The response has been amazing!  I wished I had the knowledge you guys have got.  Your input and information is very much appreciated.  Thank you