Hi all,i hope I'm getting somewhere with working out some stem glass identification problems and at the risk of yet another public belly flop,i have another couple of glasses, both with gadjet marks,the one on the left has no ring to it and I've got it down as Victorian 1860 to 1900 sweet meat dish,the one on the right as polish or the like, 70's or so with a ring to it,any feedback gratefully received,many thanks.The one on the left is about 11cm by 11cm.