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Author Topic: Amber glass boot – Greener & Co. RD 103975 of 17 July 1888?  (Read 2663 times)

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Offline agincourt17

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Re: Amber glass boot – Greener & Co. RD 103975 of 17 July 1888?
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2013, 05:24:31 PM »
Thank you, Angela.

People of like mind can usually achieve much more working in concert than in isolation, and certainly my location in a rural outpost in the mid-Wales borders is comparatively isolated physically from the mainstream of many things. Thanks to the power of the internet, however, physical location is of little disadvantage when participating in the activities of the GMB.

My main regret is that personally accessing the catalogues of The National Archives at Kew is not physically possible, though Paul Stirling has worked wonders accessing the treasures at TNA on my behalf.

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Re: Amber glass boot – Greener & Co. RD 103975 of 17 July 1888?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2013, 06:18:25 PM »
Thank you so much, Fred for your comprehensive reply.  I too have learned a lot from this board and from your questions and others' replies. 

Best wishes

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Re: Amber glass boot – Greener & Co. RD 103975 of 17 July 1888?
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2013, 05:38:32 PM »
must own up to having a senior moment with this particular request.                 Visited Kew the other day, with all details so that I could complete the outstanding Look Up requests.           Have taken great pix of the boot and part of the Register entry - but seems I have missed the most vital bit of data, which is the name of the Registrant.                So, my apologies folks, and hope to complete this item when TNA opens after Christmas.

Meanwhile just hope Santa is concentrating on getting the reindeer ready. ;) ;)

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Re: Amber glass boot – Greener & Co. RD 103975 of 17 July 1888?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2014, 10:04:13 PM »
At last, a marked example of the boot as shown in my first post, this time in opaque black glass marked with RD number 103975 (as I suspected).

(Permission for the re-use of these images on the GMB granted by Kevin Collins).

The last photo shows the boot in three different colours – black, amber and blue. Kevin tells me that the amber boot is clearly marked, but the blue boot is unmarked.

Although Jenny Thompson (page 15) lists the RD number and registration date she does not give a description of the design.

Does anyone have photos to show of this RD 103975 boot in other colours, please?

Fred.

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Re: Amber glass boot – Greener & Co. RD 103975 of 17 July 1888?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2016, 06:14:29 PM »
so, if I had Kew pictures of the boot back in December 2013, why didn't I post them???    ........    no idea  -   anyway they're now attached and taken as of today at the National Archives - although no idea for what purpose this Greener boot was made....  just a novelty perhaps.

If we have any footwear specialist members, do they know if this was a contemporary design in the 1880s or was it a pattern from an earlier fashion??   -  presumably a ladies style??

Rodney was there again  -  wouldn't talk to me tho  -  you can see he just gave me the evil eye...........  there was a family of Mallard, which included 10 babies  -  now there's just one left, and I notice Rodney was licking his lips. :'(

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Re: Amber glass boot – Greener & Co. RD 103975 of 17 July 1888?
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2016, 06:22:12 PM »
I know almost nothing about fashion. But there is an "honest-looking" site that shows examples of that style of boot for the 1880s with the side buttoning and shaped top. Keep scrolling through to find the several examples.
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Re: Amber glass boot – Greener & Co. RD 103975 of 17 July 1888?
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2016, 06:38:48 PM »
Thank you, Paul, for the design representations and the update on that particular example of Ardea cinerea. I'm surprised there is anything left to eat at all with the likes of Rodney in the vicinity. Perhaps Rodney should get the boot from his poolside position.

Thank you, Kevin, for the fashion link.

Amazing how a query on a glass forum leads on to ornithology and the finer points of Victorian footwear.

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Re: Amber glass boot – Greener & Co. RD 103975 of 17 July 1888?
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2016, 07:21:04 PM »
thanks to both.  ;D         I can imagine the very pale looking almost 'spats' part of the ankle area must have picked up a lot of mud/grime in view of the condition of roads etc. in the 1880s  -  the heels look very similar in many of the Victorian shoe/boot designs.

As you can imagine with a public oriented institution such as The National Archives  -  they are very conscious of being seen to be unbiased and non-discriminatory to all forms of life  -  so they probably try to allow nature to take it's course in many cases, although I'm aware that this summer they have removed at least one cygnet for health reasons, although sadly believe another has died.
Most of the time Rodney is the sole heron on the ponds at Kew, it's only very rarely that he has a companion.        Have to say that apart from small fish I'm not really well versed on his diet, but apparently it does seem he's not averse to baby birds, unfortunately.
It's remarkable to see that whenever I visit, almost without exception he is standing in virtually the identical spot.
Herons are not uncommon in the northern parts of Surrey where it abuts the Greater London area  -  probably the wetlands which help - the remainder of the county is quite dry due to the chalk etc. 

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Re: Amber glass boot – Greener & Co. RD 103975 of 17 July 1888?
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2016, 07:37:28 PM »
Rodney's diet will include almost any fish, mammal, bird or amphibian that fits in his throat.

Watching a heron swallow a young moorhen is an "interesting" experience. And frog's legs hanging out of the side of the beak is a sight that not too many people find pleasing.
KevinH

 

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