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Author Topic: Modern overshot vase - Czech, Scandi...?  (Read 2504 times)

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Offline dirk.

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Re: Modern overshot vase - Czech, Scandi...?
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2014, 05:33:39 PM »
Thank you both for your comments.  :)

The piece in the ebay auction reminded me of my vase, because the texture is so similar.
Even among pieces which all use the ´overshot´ technique, the result can vary due to
e.g. the size of the frits, the way they are applied and re-heated etc.
Also the dents are rather small, defined and deep compared to some just squashed
designs on Kralik pieces. This makes me wonder if they were possibly not formed with
something like a tool, but already part of a mould these pieces were blown in.

To be honest I´m not sure if Steven´s vase in the link you provided actually deserves the
term overshot. For me it looks like it might be a different kind of technique with re-heated
crackle instead of applied frits.  ???
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Re: Modern overshot vase - Czech, Scandi...?
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2014, 08:34:31 PM »

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Re: Modern overshot vase - Czech, Scandi...?
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2014, 08:53:32 AM »
Ah, thank you! Nice to see another example and to see confirmed the vague idea of a polished pontil
mark I seemed to have spot on mine might actually be there...  ;D
Still wondering if it´s czech...  :-\
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Re: Modern overshot vase - Czech, Scandi...?
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2014, 09:21:10 AM »
Just an observation - on seeing this again, the first thing I thought of was that molded shaped WMF ice bucket.
Probably way off but just a thought
example is on here somewhere
but here is one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMAZING-WMF-ART-NOUVEAU-ICE-BUCKET-FROSTED-CRYSTAL-1910-ICBERG-SILVER-PLATE-RARE-/371177522895?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566be786cf

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Re: Modern overshot vase - Czech, Scandi...?
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2014, 09:30:23 AM »
That bucket is not rare - at least not in this country. There is one on every market. And it is from the 1960s.  There are many grades of overshot, some are smooth pearls, others rough shards. This bucket is true overshot, with a rough feel to it. Keep it away from mohair sweaters.

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Re: Modern overshot vase - Czech, Scandi...?
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2014, 09:46:22 AM »
yes there are rather a lot of the buckets around :)
I was just drawing attention to the fact that Dirk's vase reminded me of this bucket for some reason.  The 'light' way of molding where the design is not very 'sharp' if you see what I mean, and the overshot maybe. As I said perhaps a long shot but I just thought maybe 1960s German for Dirk's vase.
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Re: Modern overshot vase - Czech, Scandi...?
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2014, 08:05:06 PM »
I see what you mean, m., but without being able to name it the piece in question simply
doesn´t strike me as german. Do you know that, when you just can say no, but not why?  :-\
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Re: Modern overshot vase - Czech, Scandi...?
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2014, 11:42:55 PM »
yes, I know what you mean :)

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Re: Modern overshot vase - Czech, Scandi...?
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2014, 02:48:10 PM »

Rightly or wrongly, I keep thinking Czech and the designer, Jan Gabrhel (sp?)............ just a thought.

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