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Author Topic: Whitefriars Murano bud vase  (Read 1646 times)

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Offline #grant#

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Re: Whitefriars Murano bud vase
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2020, 12:37:35 PM »
I dont doubt your caithness as they are more alike.

But the measurement 8 3/4 /22cms dont add up up.? I'm sure I'll come across the measurements soon

Thank you for your confirmation and reply to my message

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Re: Whitefriars Murano bud vase
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2020, 01:03:16 PM »
Caithness are rather fussy about quality control, if this is Caithness, it is likely a second - the interior colour is decidedly squint.
It can be hard to tell these from the wfs ones, Caithness ones do not have flat polished bases, but a curved indent from a mould. The edges of the polished rims are not sharp, but nicely rounded (I've got one sitting here beside me).
P 27. of Mark Hill's Caithness book shows a sandblasted one, and the caption says it was designed by Charles Orr. It is early - '60s ish, but they are quite common and are often mistaken for wfs ones. No actual date is given.
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Re: Whitefriars Murano bud vase
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2020, 02:03:32 PM »
The bottom is flat polished and the top is rough.! A previous reply from the staircase mentioned if flat bottom and top is caithness..??

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Re: Whitefriars Murano bud vase
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2020, 02:41:33 PM »
A flat polished base could be either Caithness or wfs. A moulded indent is definitely Caithness.
If the top is rough, has it been broken? Caithness would not leave a rough rim.

For many of these bud vases, it can be almost impossible to tell whether they are Caithness or wfs.
The squintness of the colour really worries me. Caithness did sell seconds, clearly marked as such, but seconds tended to have far less obvious flaws than this. It can be difficult to find the flaw - often just a swirl in the clear glass. I can't see this having been deemed good enough to sell, even as a second. And you say it has a rough rim, which doesn't sound at all right either.

It really looks as if it might have escaped from wherever it came from, I'm afraid. ;D
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