Topic: UNUSUAL ART GLASS GOBLETS HELP NEEDED.

[Frank]

Excellent news! Who is going to tell them the secret is out  :clap:

[krsilber]

JP, I'm curious what first suggested to you that Royo was made by Gordiola?

I don't know Spanish, and couldn't find the online book, so this idea may be off-base.  I hate to even suggest it, but I wonder whether it's possible the glass in your vase may have been made by Gordiola, but it was decorated elsewhere.


Where does Cire fit into all this?  Is that not such a secret?

[johnphilip]

Well first of all it was a gut feeling,i have been collecting all types of glass for about thirty years in this time i have seen many signatures on Gordiola glass another signature is cuneo and one has souvenir Ibiza on it, the shapes and the enameling are copies or Spanish glass from a couple of centuries earlier ie canine and flora-fauna and flora,in Mallorca i had a chance to buy a book on Spanish glass but didnt have enough pesetas with me and many of the shapes and enameling  were in it as typical Spanish,the Gordiola book mentions their new enamaling shop next to the furnaces,c1930,my final proof arrived a few minutes ago signed Gordiola Mallorca it was sold to me as Italian.  also i have been accused of being psychic. now awaiting new camera, my birthday is on St Georges day, wont be long.
PS. Many of the pieces carry the coat of arms of Spanish regions.

[Ivo]

Just had a mail from Jesús Fernández at Gordiola who confirms that the Royo pieces were indeed made by Gordiola, and decorated at the oven in enamel folk themes by catalan artist Royo. He will come back with more information on the time period.

There is no getting around it any more.

Efectivamente, estas piezas estan realizadas por Vidrios Gordiola, y
decoradas en pintura artesanal al horno por Royo (personaje catalán) .
En otro e-mail le informaré de la época.

[Frank]

 :clap: :clap: :clap: I guess a lot of Moser collectors will be selling off soon.

Other Royo discussion on GMB
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1565.0.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2048.0.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2505.0.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,5108.0.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,8796.0.html

[johnphilip]

Thanks for the help Ivo and Frank i hadnt seen any of the previous posts,i am glad i am stubborn and didnt give up,i will definately take a course in computing it will make research a lot easier and i have the time now,i wonder if i have made more friends than enemies cracking this.Algaida is a must for you all now.thanks for the help all.Regards JPH

[Frank]

Using SEARCH near the top left of the screen is a great way to research on the GMB as it finds the word in all forums.

[krsilber]

It is indeed quite a mystery to have cracked!  That's excellent.  I've wondered about it for a long time myself, before I knew anyone else who questioned the Moser connection.  Thanks, JP, for bringing Royo into the discussion!  Kudos to you and your gut feelings. :hiclp: :hiclp: :hiclp:

And thanks, Ivo, for writing to Gordiola to confirm it!

[Galle]

Thanks, Ivo... I sent them an email also - but hadn't heard back yet. I have one Royo piece in my collection (very inexpensive) - now I can update the description in the gallery! Woot!

[krsilber]

Odd that they say it was done at the oven...they must mean it was fired on, right?  Enamel and gold are applied to cold glass.

JP, any gut feelings about Cire?  That's another one I've wondered about.  I did a search of the board for Cire and at least one thread seemed to suggest Royo and Cire are one and the same, but it seems to me the styles are somewhat different.