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Offline francois

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« on: January 19, 2008, 06:42:10 PM »
Hello all.
Third attempt by technically-challenged new member, here goes...
Can anyone ID this unusual wall pocket, in opalescent pearly turquoise blue. Looks very like Davidson but I've not seen one like this before. Thank you!

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Re: Victorian Blue Pearline Wall Pocket
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2008, 08:22:06 PM »
There is a primrose one here described as Davidson, but one of my books only says maybe

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Re: Victorian Blue Pearline Wall Pocket
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2008, 10:53:05 AM »
Thanks for that, Christine.
I'm coming round to the fact that I may never get a cast iron ID from a pattern archive or someone who's seen one.
Good weekend  :)

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Re: Victorian Blue Pearline Wall Pocket
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2008, 02:24:19 PM »
It's called Driftwood and Shell, made by Burtles, Tate & Co. around 1903. Pictured in Opalescent Glass From A-Z, Revised Edition by Heacock and Elmore.

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Re: Victorian Blue Pearline Wall Pocket
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2008, 02:52:18 PM »
It was also made in Primrose Pearline (yellow vaseline opalescent).  Ron got it right, though it is Burtles, Tate & Co., Not Bartles, Tate.

Nice piece!

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Re: Victorian Blue Pearline Wall Pocket
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2008, 04:23:10 PM »
Hello:

The Heacock and Elmore reference states that the Rd No. 39807 appears on the back of the "yellow one" and then they show a blue pearline example. This number is for a Burtles, Tate & Co. registration on December 18, 1885 for a "pattern and shape of flower bracket".  However, when I do an internet search on that registry number a different example comes up on the Vaseline Glass Club web page and it doesn't look like the example we are talking about at all:

http://www.vaselineglass.org/BTwallpocketlg.jpg

Does yours have this number on it? If not, perhaps we need to look a little further.

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Re: Victorian Blue Pearline Wall Pocket
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2008, 05:43:58 PM »
Thanks so much for all your responses!

Burtles & Tate were one of the Manchester manufacturers, no?

There is no number on my blue pearline version, none that I can find anyway.  The name "Driftwood & Shell" pretty well sums up the design. The lip of the vessel reveals a wonderful clam shell shape with what looks like seaweed and other extraneous "stuff" wound around it, while the handle could well represent driftwood.
Shall we settle on B&T, then? 
I thought it might have high Victorian, but the concensus seems to make it very late. 1903 must have been nearing the swansong for ultra-fancy designs like this, as well as the fashion for pearline. Enough of my rambling... thanks again.

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Re: Victorian Blue Pearline Wall Pocket
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2008, 10:11:46 PM »
It may be simply a triangular pocket with a triangular hook that was registered, rather than the design on it

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Re: Victorian Blue Pearline Wall Pocket
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2008, 01:15:04 AM »
Christine:

That's a good example of what I meant by looking a little further. Maybe somebody in the group can provide a copy of the registration to confirm your supposition?

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Re: Victorian Blue Pearline Wall Pocket
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2008, 07:30:49 AM »
Hi Guys
Very nice piece of glass.

I have a copy of "The Identification of English Pressed Glass 1842-1908" by Jenny Thompson, in it the registrastion is discribed as Pattern and shape of flower bracket.

I belive Jenny searched the registration files herself.

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