Topic: Cloisonné mystery

[Frank]

A visitor to SG sent me these pictures.

For comparisions.
1. Royal Brierley http://members.aol.com/estateartglass/ArtGlassForSale/ArtGlassRoyalRedBowl4.JPG

2. Unknown apparently identical on PKays album

3. On ebay attributed to WMF

4. On ebay good Monart example

5. Monart Cloisonné close up

6. Caithness use of technique on SG

Probably none of the above, so who else could it be...

[aa]

Size - might have a bearing?


Very neat base, punty has come off very cleanly, unless they used a gadget.

Can't work out whether the outside is silver leaf or a grey powder. Whichever it is, I suspect it was dipped in water to crackle and then blown out a bit while melting the cracks in.

Since nobody else has risked making a fool of themselves.....I'll jump in!
If it is British, I think I'd be inclined to follow up either with Iestyn Davies, or Paul Barcroft, or Malcolm Sutcliffe, but these are more inspired guesses than anything else and may not even be inspired!

[krsilber]

That outside is wild - looks sort of like opal (stone, that is).

[Bernard C]

Frank — My first reaction was Royal Brierley because of the shape, colourway, and all over evenness of the cloisonné / crackle effect.

I would be reasonably happy to buy it and sell it as probably RB.

It doesn't ring true to me for early Iestyn Davies, although Adam has probably seen more of his early work than me, as I have formed the impression that he liked to keep his styles quite distinct from those of Richard Golding at Okra, and this vase is too Okra-ish in both shape and finish.

Bernard C. 

[Frank]

It was a strange coincidence that in one week 3 examples of this technique and colourway poped up. When I first saw the one sent to me yesterday the finish looked incredibly Monart and I thought it could be. The orange striking in the rim did disturb me though, as did the shape. But once I got the base shot knew it was not. As I had already been alerted to the WMF candidate and the Monart one on eBay the hunt was on, Ray came up with RB but the way the bases differ is to different. Several other RB examples I looked at were consistent. I have had it confirmed that WMF did make this style pre WW2 for a short period so perhaps the eBay example is correctly ID'd - but no certainty. I also knew Caithness had done some pieces in this style but the one example illustrated is again very different in execution if not style.

Shapewise I guess this is a fairly widely used style but I was surprised at the suggestion of studio - in support of that is the pkay matching shape/style example does not seem such a well executed example pointing to inconsistency and thus less likely factory - but that could also just be the photo.

So perhaps this one will take longer to resolve.

[Frank]

Size of the main subject is 35cms (approx 14") tall and weighs close to 2.5kgs (5.5lbs)

[Frank]

The owner has followed up leads, with gratitude:

Malcolm Sutcliffe Glass Gallery & Studio - Not one of his

Paul Barcroft - He did make some Cloisonné 15 years ago but not this one. He used more vibrant colours.

[Frank]

Another one, claiming to be Lötz... 
http://cgi.ebay.pl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7364120683

[flying free]

I am probably way off here but in my search for craquele I came across the site for Jeff price
www.jeffpriceartglass.com
in the demonstration technique for crackle the bowl llink you have posted looks similar to one he is making in his demo and there is an example of a vase which has a similar effect to the vase you have posted Bernard although very different shape/style in my eyes.
m

[Frank]

No you are not way off M, same technique.

Can't work out whether the outside is silver leaf or a grey powder. Whichever it is, I suspect it was dipped in water to crackle and then blown out a bit while melting the cracks in.

Neither Adam, it is white with added lustre, in the early days the lustre just occurred due to the impurities in their producer gas, once they stopped making their own gas they had to use a more conventional technique for the lustre.